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[Prince EWS]

I know a lot of spinners have struggled to come to grips with India initially, but this is Panesar's second tour and he's looked nothing short of terrible. He hasn't tried to out-think or work over any of the batsmen at all, he's bowled with no flight variation and he's bowled about as accurately as I could have managed for the most part.

It's been mentioned a couple of times but I'm really surprised to see so little discussion about it given, firstly, how unpopular Panesar actually seems to be on this forum and secondly, how much of a pasting Harris got when he did exactly the same thing last season.

 

[biased indian]

91/1 great session.....now i don't have any problem with who ever wins ...the team that wins this is a worthy winner

 

[GIMH]

I know a lot of spinners have struggled to come to grips with India initially, but this is Panesar's second tour and he's looked nothing short of terrible. He hasn't tried to out-think or work over any of the batsmen at all, he's bowled with no flight variation and he's bowled about as accurately as I could have managed for the most part.

It's been mentioned a couple of times but I'm really surprised to see so little discussion about it given, firstly, how unpopular Panesar actually seems to be on this forum and secondly, how much of a pasting Harris got when he did exactly the same thing last season.

Couple that with him failing to come to the party in a match that seemed tailor-made for him, and I think he needs to be dropped.

 

[R_D]

Cricbuzz is generally faster, and are more descriptive with their comments

Generally prefer cricinfo over cribuzz.. seems to be more detailed or i'm just probaly used to it.

 

[Neil Pickup]

I know a lot of spinners have struggled to come to grips with India initially, but this is Panesar's second tour and he's looked nothing short of terrible. He hasn't tried to out-think or work over any of the batsmen at all, he's bowled with no flight variation and he's bowled about as accurately as I could have managed for the most part.

It's been mentioned a couple of times but I'm really surprised to see so little discussion about it given, firstly, how unpopular Panesar actually seems to be on this forum and secondly, how much of a pasting Harris got when he did exactly the same thing last season.

I think it's the fact that we're used to it and we don't expect anything better.

 

[Zinzan]

Still 11 overs until the 2nd new ball is available

 

[Athlai]

Still 11 overs until the 2nd new ball

30 odd runs and a wicket.

50 runs with 5 wickets remaining...

Flintoff takes 2 wickets and India get home with 3 wickets in hand.

 

[biased indian]

Still 11 overs until the 2nd new ball is available

if england don't take any wicket by then this game will be almost over

Edit : its only one over rite ?????

 

[Evermind]

I know a lot of spinners have struggled to come to grips with India initially, but this is Panesar's second tour and he's looked nothing short of terrible. He hasn't tried to out-think or work over any of the batsmen at all, he's bowled with no flight variation and he's bowled about as accurately as I could have managed for the most part.

It's been mentioned a couple of times but I'm really surprised to see so little discussion about it given, firstly, how unpopular Panesar actually seems to be on this forum and secondly, how much of a pasting Harris got when he did exactly the same thing last season.

Giles, then Panesar, now Swann...not one of them is a world-class spinner. Panesar was hailed as the second coming, and now everyone's in love with Swann. It's one thing to surprise batsmen on your debut - it's a whole different matter when your bowling's analysed to death and the batsman can pick your ball before it's bowled.

 

[biased indian]

do any one know how many times has been the highest inng total been made in the 4th inng of the match ???

 

[GIMH]

if england don't take any wicket by then this game will be almost over

Edit : its only one over rite ?????

yeah, one over

 

[Zinzan]

Presumably India have the full 40 overs available to them as cricinfo suggests. England must be well behind the overrate.

 

[Zinzan]

Anyone still giving England a chance should get their wallets out.

Sky sports current odds are;

India (1.11) England (9) Draw (29)

 

[wpdavid]

Giles, then Panesar, now Swann...not one of them is a world-class spinner. Panesar was hailed as the second coming, and now everyone's in love with Swann. It's one thing to surprise batsmen on your debut - it's a whole different matter when your bowling's analysed to death and the batsman can pick your ball before it's bowled.

Which is bad news when you haven't produced a world class spinner in over 40 years.

 

[Nate]

Pretty sure there's just one over until the new ball is up.

 

[Zinzan]

Pretty sure there's just one over until the new ball is up.

Yeah, your right. I was stupidly thinking 90 overs for some reason, must be late

 

[GIMH]

90 overs is the amount in the county championship, I know that much

 

[Athlai]

New ball!!!

 

[GIMH]

Uppercut's avatar can sleep tight for a little while longer it would seem

 

[duffer]

Yuvi will find a way to screw this up.