Ranadeb Bose - another unsung Hero??

[Jonty Lathwal]

Some people will be cursing me for posting another thread like this.
But i still support these players.

Ranadeb Bose is another one like Manhas.Was excellent right from the start of his FC Career.But never played for India.I was surprised when i saw that he was nowhere in the IPL.

Here is his record:-

Mat Balls Runs Wkts BBI Ave Econ
First-class 68 13386 6051 247 7/24 24.49 2.71

List A 64 3143 2412 101 6/35 23.88 4.60

 

[Arjun]

Tight one again. Ranadeb, however, had a little too much going against him. He wasn't outright quick (though some of those perceived as outright quick were proven duds) and that wouldn't help on less receptive pitches. His lack of batting and fielding ability was another drawback, especially on one-day cricket. He was, however, very match-fit (ahem, Munaf) and he'd last a long time. That said, SRK kicking him out of the Knightriders was a silly thing, and shouldn't have happened in a cricket tournament.

 

[Jonty Lathwal]

Tight one again. Ranadeb, however, had a little too much going against him. He wasn't outright quick (though some of those perceived as outright quick were proven duds) and that wouldn't help on less receptive pitches. His lack of batting and fielding ability was another drawback, especially on one-day cricket. He was, however, very match-fit (ahem, Munaf) and he'd last a long time. That said, SRK kicking him out of the Knightriders was a silly thing, and shouldn't have happened in a cricket tournament.

Yeah SRK has played school cricket but i don't think he has as much cricket knowledge......
He threw out some really good players like Bose ..SS Paul.......Yashpal Singh..etc.

 

[Manee]

There are better FC performers than him though, such as Trivedi, Debahis Mohanty and Gagandeep Singh.

 

[Precambrian]

Joginder Sharma has a better record than Ranadeb. Shows how much reliable averages can be in this case. He had a look in during the last England tour but didnt impress many.

 

[Jonty Lathwal]

There are better FC performers than him though, such as Trivedi, Debahis Mohanty and Gagandeep Singh.

Mohanty is still doing his best in FC cricket .....but i don't think selectors will consider him......coz of his age.......

Gagandeep is another man who should get a chance......did well in the IPL....

 

[Precambrian]

Mohanty is still doing his best in FC cricket .....but i don't think selectors will consider him......coz of his age.......

Gagandeep is another man who should get a chance......did well in the IPL....

The new Mohanty, I think his full name is Basant Mohanty, is an exciting prospect.

 

[Jonty Lathwal]

The new Mohanty, I think his full name is Basant Mohanty, is an exciting prospect.

Both the Mohantys are doing well Basant & Debashish.

 

[Lambu]

Was mostly crap.

 

[Jonty Lathwal]

Was mostly crap.

who & why?????

 

[adharcric]

The new Mohanty, I think his full name is Basant Mohanty, is an exciting prospect.

Have you seen him in action?

 

[Precambrian]

Have you seen him in action?

Nopey. Purely by stats.

 

[Arjun]

The new Mohanty, I think his full name is Basant Mohanty, is an exciting prospect.

Debashish is a more reliable bowler. We don't know what Basanth can do, and how much, but we know what to expect from Debashish. He was quite a handful on seaming wickets in friendly conditions but a target on flat tracks, but was strangely often left out.

 

[Arjun]

There are better FC performers than him though, such as Trivedi, Debahis Mohanty and Gagandeep Singh.

Trivedi? He's more a limited-overs stock seamer than one you'll have leading a bowling attack in Tests. Although there's nothing wrong with that- several leading seam/swing bowlers from different FC teams have failed as backup/stock bowlers.

 

[Lambu]

who & why?????

Ranadeb Bose..he was selected in the squad to England in 2007. I saw him bowl in the practise game or the the ODI series in Ireland(i forget which?),apart from seeing him many times in domestic cricket, but looked like the worst specialist seamer we had fielded this entire decade(thats saying something)..generally around the mid 70's mph in terms of pace but what was even worse was the general lack of control. So yeah doesn't have much going for him.

 

[Arjun]

Joginder Sharma has a better record than Ranadeb. Shows how much reliable averages can be in this case. He had a look in during the last England tour but didnt impress many.

Joginder played a lot of cricket in the Plate league, so he's bulldozed several batting lineups. Besides, he wouldn't be anywhere in the frame if it hadn't been for his batting- and Ranadeb can't bat.

 

[Arjun]

Ranadeb Bose..he was selected in the squad to England in 2007. I saw him bowl in the practise game or the the ODI series in Ireland(i forget which?),apart from seeing him many times in domestic cricket, but looked like the worst specialist seamer we had fielded this entire decade(thats saying something)..generally around the mid 70's mph in terms of pace but what was even worse was the general lack of control. So yeah doesn't have much going for him.

Not really that bad, especially when the rest of the pace pack are so much like him- good build, decent control of the ball, reasonably useful in seamer-friendly conditions but absolutely useless on a flat pitch, slow, and possibly not at all useful without the ball. We've seen some dwarfs lead the pace attack, so someone of his size is welcome.

The problem with all Indian pacers is more or less the same- lack of refinement, lack of pace and lack of adaptability. Maybe the use of technology (especially biomechanics) can help them perform a lot better.

 

[Jonty Lathwal]

Ranadeb Bose..he was selected in the squad to England in 2007. I saw him bowl in the practise game or the the ODI series in Ireland(i forget which?),apart from seeing him many times in domestic cricket, but looked like the worst specialist seamer we had fielded this entire decade(thats saying something)..generally around the mid 70's mph in terms of pace but what was even worse was the general lack of control. So yeah doesn't have much going for him.

but look at his FC record

 

[Jonty Lathwal]

Joginder played a lot of cricket in the Plate league, so he's bulldozed several batting lineups. Besides, he wouldn't be anywhere in the frame if it hadn't been for his batting- and Ranadeb can't bat.

This season only Haryana slided to Plate division.........

from many years (4-5) they were in elite.....

 

[Lambu]

Not really that bad, especially when the rest of the pace pack are so much like him- good build, decent control of the ball, reasonably useful in seamer-friendly conditions but absolutely useless on a flat pitch, slow, and possibly not at all useful without the ball. We've seen some dwarfs lead the pace attack, so someone of his size is welcome.

The problem with all Indian pacers is more or less the same- lack of refinement, lack of pace and lack of adaptability. Maybe the use of technology (especially biomechanics) can help them perform a lot better.

Yes you are right and thats the reason i was even more annoyed everytime i saw him bowl.
A guy of his size and age shouldn't be bowling the way he does!! Anyways I'm glad selectors saw through his stats.

Regarding the second part of your post..yes thats a common problem with Indian "quicks"..the main reasons why i feel that most Indian bowlers tend to be like that is because their actions tend to be incomplete. In case of Ranadeb, one of the few things i noticed straight off is he hardly gains momentum in his run-up, loses whatever advantage he has due to his height by bending his left knee at the time of delivery etc..That shows a general lack of knowledge in fast bowling on the part of whoever is training these guys at their formative stages.

Also i think that most of these bowlers, i believe, have poor core fitness(that plays a vital role in generation of pace)..you can tell that Ranadeb,SS Paul etc. have poor fitness especially in the abdominal area.

Although fortunately, i noticed that Indians have great wrist positions and ball comes out of their hands nicely,with good seam positions(almost all bowlers that i have seen anyway). So hopefully with the gfreater emphasis now being laid upon fast bowling by the Indian management, we may see changes. And i think we are on the right path. Guys like Sangwan,Dinda etc give me hope,that there are people in India who have identified the areas to improve.Anyway lets see where we are 5 years down the line. Still lot of work to be done.