Bahnz
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It was a joke...
You just never give it a rest do you?
Bahnz
Hall of Fame Member
Perhaps throw in a smiley or something next time. I was seriously questioning your sanity for a minute there...well moreso than usual anyway.
Catching no fish today made me insane...it was the gayest fishing expedition ever. Perhaps in a few weeks once it gets warmer. Smileys are for the weak.
Andre
International Regular
Was sort of hoping Hilfenhaus would jag a spot in the squad and play in Brisbane - his ability to swing and shape the ball would have offered a lot to the attack, with Johnson, Clark, Watson and Lee all being pretty gunbarrell straight (although to Watson's credit, he got it to hoop a bit reverse in India).
Siddle probably held his ground cause he did nothing wrong when he got the chance which is fair enough. Krejza kind of had to get picked, but even though I kind of advocated his selection to tour India, I'd be suprised if he played more than another 5 or 6 Tests to be honest.
Hoping Symonds plays over Watson - he's a match winner, which at this stage Watson isn't, and at the moment I think we really need that.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
If the Indian tour should have thought the Australian selectors ANYTHING is that in this crucial post McGrath/Warne era, they need to read conditions better & pick sides accordingly, since the wonderful balance of golden era to have an XI that can win in all conditions is gone.
The fact that Siddle has been preffered to Noffke in the first test squad & the possiblity that Krejza will play & Watson may hold his place instead of Symonds would not be the best decision right now.
Siddle looked very impressive on debut & i'd love to see more of him in the near future, but his overall package isn't better than Noffke ATM.
Watson was encouraging in both facets in India, but just like the Hodge/Martyn situation vs SA in 06. The selectors need to pick Symonds in the XI for the 1st test, and Krejza i much prefer for him to go back to domestic cricket & take wickets since obviously the jury is still out whether he can be a consistent wicket-taker on Australian wickets. (But you could always pick him again for the SCG or Adelaide tests)
Overall, I'm really worried about some of the selection that could be made vs SA & ENG if pressure is put on Australia in the coming months.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
I'm sure the Indians felt the same about getting out to JJ.Quality effort from NZ, getting out to Lambert? Are you serious
howardj
International Coach
My thoughts exactly, as I wrote last week, Andres. There's a real sameness about our quicks, in that sense. Hilfenhaus swings it from ball one, he doesn't have to wait until reverse swing occurs.
Disagree with this though. I would prefer the better bowler at six, rather than the better batsman - it gives the team another dimension. Plus, with Haddin, Lee and Johnson to follow, we 'bat long' anyway.
pup11
International Coach
Siddle over Bollinger or Noffke is a again a stupid move, what have blokes like Noffke and Bollinger done to be dropped even without playing a single game, anyways good to see Symmo back in the side but i doubt he will be the part of the playing XI unless Clarke is ruled out of the 1st test, because the way Watto bowled in the last test in India it would be madness to drop him and i am sure Krejza won't be dropped either, and Clark would come in for White.
James90
Cricketer Of The Year
I don't think Symonds has earned a place ahead of Watson so in a straight match-up I'd pick Watto.
However, I think it should be decided on the spot of Krejza v Siddle. If Krejza plays you pick Watto to strengthen the seam attack. If Siddle plays you pick Symonds to offer some spin and strengthen the batting.
Question then is: Krejza v Siddle? The former has done more to deserve selection and should really be groomed now that he's #1 spinner. However, the pitch would suit Siddle better and thus he'd probably do more damage to the NZ batting. Having said that they looked at sea trying to play Shakib recently.
If you put a gun to my head I'd probably pick Krejza and Watson.
However, I think it should be decided on the spot of Krejza v Siddle. If Krejza plays you pick Watto to strengthen the seam attack. If Siddle plays you pick Symonds to offer some spin and strengthen the batting.
Question then is: Krejza v Siddle? The former has done more to deserve selection and should really be groomed now that he's #1 spinner. However, the pitch would suit Siddle better and thus he'd probably do more damage to the NZ batting. Having said that they looked at sea trying to play Shakib recently.
If you put a gun to my head I'd probably pick Krejza and Watson.
Andre
International Regular
I can see where you are coming from - but my thought line on this (I'll make it clear I'm not much of a Watson fan, but thats for another day) is that the variety that Symonds offers us will the ball might be more useful than a fourth up and down seamer. As ordinary as his batting has been his meds have been decent in Shield cricket this summer - he does get it to swing and you'd imagine he's got a pretty similar strike rate to Watson. Watson might look more polished as a bowler but I doubt that he is really any more effective.
Plus, I don't think we'll need the fourth seamer that much, but also, Symonds offies are handy insurance for if (and possibly when) Krejza gets belted on the flat tracks of home.
Regardless of what has happened though, I'm pretty sure Symonds will just be treated like a player coming back from injury (effectively he is) and will slot straight back in, because as hard as he tried, Watson didn't set the world on fire. Handy contributions - yes. Match-winner of Symonds class - not yet IMO.
Jakester1288
International Regular
Well, that squad has it's faults. Where is Bollinger? Siddle doesn't deserve a spot over him.
In the first test, I would be picking Watson ahead of Symonds, purely because he hasn't done anything wrong. I hope Symonds doesn't just get to waltz back into the side, make him work for it. Give Watson this series and possibly the next one, before Symonds has a chance of coming back in.
From the players there, I would run with this side:
1. Hayden
2. Katich
3. Ponting
4. Hussey
5. Clarke
6. Watson
7. Haddin
8. Lee
9. Krejza
10. Johnson
11. Clark
Strong side as far as I'm concerned, Watson has been bowling well and from what I've seen, doesn't look like doing a hammy any time soon.
In the first test, I would be picking Watson ahead of Symonds, purely because he hasn't done anything wrong. I hope Symonds doesn't just get to waltz back into the side, make him work for it. Give Watson this series and possibly the next one, before Symonds has a chance of coming back in.
From the players there, I would run with this side:
1. Hayden
2. Katich
3. Ponting
4. Hussey
5. Clarke
6. Watson
7. Haddin
8. Lee
9. Krejza
10. Johnson
11. Clark
Strong side as far as I'm concerned, Watson has been bowling well and from what I've seen, doesn't look like doing a hammy any time soon.
Jakester1288
International Regular
He did so very well, a nice 170 in the end, scoring the majority of New Zealands runs in the end. Promising start to the series.
Well done to Hazelwood btw, making a first class debut against New Zealand just after you have finished your HSC is pretty good!
