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Procter off ICC Match-Referee panel?

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shankar

International Debutant
silentstriker said:
Because by the time the Sydney test rolled around, everyone in cricket knew (if they didn't before) what that word would mean to the victim.
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Sure. Understanding it's offensive to someone doesnt make the word offensive to you though. The prudent thing to do would be,as Precambrian posted, to avoid the word altogether. A similar reasoning should hold in the case other abusive language as well.
 
Precambrian

Precambrian

Banned
social said:
PR fluff following Sydney

They can decide every single issue by sheer weight of numbers EXCEPT this one
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Fluff or no fluff, I think Indian Board has been traditionally against sledging in the game, and if they really want to, they can bring a ban on this considering the clout they have, and do some good to cricket atleast.
 
social

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Precambrian said:
Fluff or no fluff, I think Indian Board has been traditionally against sledging in the game, and if they really want to, they can bring a ban on this considering the clout they have, and do some good to cricket atleast.
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Being the upholders of everything sacred and fine in our great game, I'm sure that the BCCI will get around to it once they've finished black-mailing the Sri Lankan Cricket Board, persecuting the IPL for having more brains than they do, and manipulating the FTP to ensure maximum revenue for the IPL.

Alternatively, they might not give a toss at the moment as India are currently leading their test series vs Oz and they dont need a diversion to deflect attention away from their on-field performance

Then again, it could be just the anti non-westerner coming out in me :laugh: :laugh: :laugh::laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 
Matt79

Matt79

Hall of Fame Member
Precambrian said:
Fluff or no fluff, I think Indian Board has been traditionally against sledging in the game, and if they really want to, they can bring a ban on this considering the clout they have, and do some good to cricket atleast.
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Look forward to them making an example of Zaheer Khan then.

Not saying he deserves it, but surely that's the logical first step if they want to stamp it out. Or refusing matches with teams that don't similarly act against sledgers.

It was some nice moral high ground to seize in defence of one of their players who they felt was wronged in a specific situation, but as a general point of principle, forget about it.
 
vic_orthdox

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
Precambrian said:
Fluff or no fluff, I think Indian Board has been traditionally against sledging in the game, and if they really want to, they can bring a ban on this considering the clout they have, and do some good to cricket atleast.
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Hope it stops their own players calling opposition "sister****ers" and "white monkeys". But hey, Indians don't sledge!
 
vic_orthdox

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
vic_orthdox said:
Ridiculous.
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The only reason this is an issue is because of the voyeurism of the modern day cricket watcher.

We have 1000s of people here who debate about people's standing in the game, reputation, ability - personalities, even! - and that's just on this site alone. These people represent their nation, and their future relies on their performances that take place in front of squillions. You expect them to detach themselves emotionally from the game when they take part?

You can't look at this issue with a park cricket mentality, and too many people have that outlook when discussing this topic.
 
Richard

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
vic_orthdox said:
You expect them to detach themselves emotionally from the game when they take part?
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No, I don't. I don't have any objection to aggression, or big showy aggression if the player must. I have objection to use of foul and abusive terminology, which has the potential to offend many, including people whose culture you do not understand.

IMO, you either allow anything and everything or you allow no naming words of any sort (bar, obviously, full names which are written on birth-certificates) being directed at players on the opposing team.

The current rules, which state that racist abuse (and there are many potentially racist terms that are extremely grey, as the Harbhajan-Symonds nonsense demonstrates) is deplorable and everything else is perfectly OK, are frankly laughable. There are no hard and fast rules to abuse and what is insulting, and no-one has any right to try and impose their culture's interpretation on another. For some cultures, there are many forms of abuse worse than racism. For some cultures, terms may be considered racist that are nothing of the sort in other cultures.

To ban directing nouns at players on the opposing side is not remotely difficult and if someone cannot perform such a simple task I'd be quite happy to see MRs come down like a tonne of bricks on them. I've no objection to staring and eyeballing, nor even to "keep driving those Michael, keep driving them" or "c'mon Ramps, y'know y'wanna". But I do have objection to "you jammy ****" because while to some that's nothing, to others it's very much something.
 
Richard

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
vic_orthdox said:
The only reason this is an issue is because of the voyeurism of the modern day cricket watcher.
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And I don't agree with that either. The reason it's an issue is because cricket is a multinational sport which spans hundreds of different cultures, and some people don't understand other people's cultures. As a result, someone can say something they think is harmless which can be interpreted as anything but harmless.

You seriously think SCGgate would've been a complete non-issue if spectators never took any interest in what players said?
 
vic_orthdox

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
You seriously think SCGgate would've been a complete non-issue if spectators never took any interest in what players said?
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I don't know about non-issue. But it wouldn't still be an issue.
 
vic_orthdox

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
To ban directing nouns at players on the opposing side is not remotely difficult and if someone cannot perform such a simple task I'd be quite happy to see MRs come down like a tonne of bricks on them.
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Ban all nouns, problem solvered!
 
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