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*Official* English Football Season 2008-2009

Barney Rubble

International Coach
Since i'm sure even Capello knows at the back of his mind, that come 2010 he can't expect to have Becks at 35 to come on for 5 minutes just to wip in a cross, especially when the likes of Young, SWP & Bentley will be able peaking by then.

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Bentley? At this rate, he'll never play for England again. He is, at best, fourth-choice right-winger behind Walcott, Beckham and the rejuvenated Wright-Phillips - he's even got Aaron Lennon to contend with in his own, awful, Spurs team.

Also, if you're only going to be "coming on for five minutes just to whip in a cross", then what difference does age make? Said it before, I'll say it again - Beckham never had pace to lose, and he's one of the fittest players around. Wouldn't be remotely surprised to see him in the 2010 squad. Heck of a lot more likely than David "I'm too tired" Bentley, anyway, who as far as I'm concerned can rot in the Championship with Spurs until he's decided England are worth his time.
 

chalky

International Debutant
Bentley? At this rate, he'll never play for England again. He is, at best, fourth-choice right-winger behind Walcott, Beckham and the rejuvenated Wright-Phillips - he's even got Aaron Lennon to contend with in his own, awful, Spurs team.

Also, if you're only going to be "coming on for five minutes just to whip in a cross", then what difference does age make? Said it before, I'll say it again - Beckham never had pace to lose, and he's one of the fittest players around. Wouldn't be remotely surprised to see him in the 2010 squad. Heck of a lot more likely than David "I'm too tired" Bentley, anyway, who as far as I'm concerned can rot in the Championship with Spurs until he's decided England are worth his time.
:laugh: :laugh: Quality rant agree with the lot - Bentley doesn't even make the spurs bench tonight for the record.
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Tbh, I don't think Barneys post is a rant, more just a stating of fact.

Bentley left Arsenal because he realised he wasn't good enough to break in to the first-team, so he chose to go to a team where he could coast for much of the season, and just perform in the big matches, and get a press wholly out of proportion to his day/in day/out performances. He was always slagging off arsenal and talking himself up & the press went along with this twaddle. He then moved to Spurs, and quite frankly in the media spotlight of London people have realised what many Blackburn fans and Arsene Wenger knew.

He's not any good.

Spurs losing again, the monotony of this happening should make it less funny, and yet it somehow doesn't:laugh:
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Bentley? At this rate, he'll never play for England again. He is, at best, fourth-choice right-winger behind Walcott, Beckham and the rejuvenated Wright-Phillips - he's even got Aaron Lennon to contend with in his own, awful, Spurs team.
Seriously though yo, even though Spurs woes will obviously keep him away from English selection on form he is still a better pick than SWP & Lennon who although are faster than him, SWP especially internationally seems to always run into defenders, Bentley overall package is more sound.

But then again it still all comes down to form come 2010.

I guess you can also throw Young as an option on the right, given that i doubt Capello views him as a natural LW option given his right footedness. Technically outside the international regulars of Cole, Becks he is has been the most consistent English "winger" for the past season & an half now, better than even Theo


Also, if you're only going to be "coming on for five minutes just to whip in a cross", then what difference does age make? Said it before, I'll say it again - Beckham never had pace to lose, and he's one of the fittest players around. Wouldn't be remotely surprised to see him in the 2010 squad. Heck of a lot more likely than David "I'm too tired" Bentley, anyway, who as far as I'm concerned can rot in the Championship with Spurs until he's decided England are worth his time.
:laugh: , good rant indeed Barnes. Again though no doubt i can see Beckham being apart of the 2010 sqaud, once he does what i've been calling for him to do in this latter part of his career in becoming more of deep-lying playmaker (which Ancelotti seems to believe he'll play him as in Milan), i don't want him to be considered as an option on the right-wing anymore.

You could say the same thing about Barry TBH, he could play down the left but i wouldn't want to see him there internationally. Even as a sub for 5 minutes. It just affects the whole balance of the squad

If a possible 23 looks come 2010 looks this this:

GK: James, Foster, Kirkland/Green

DEF: Rio, JT, Woodgate, Richards, Cole, Bridge, Brown

MID: Stevie G, Lamps, Hargreaves, Barry, Carrick/Beckham, Cole, Walcott, SWP/Young/Bentley, Taylor

STR: Rooney, Heskey, Owen, Ashton/Crouch/Gabby.

Even if Capello's structure is different to this, point is if 4 wingers are picked picking a potentially 35 year old Becks as a Right-wing option for me is wrong.

I always used to say post Croatia that the MAIN reason Beckham should be around the international side is well, ENG had NO fluency in the middle of the park & well Becks dead ball expertise was pretty much the only way we seemed as if we are going to score & throughout the EURO 08 qualifiers that really was the case.

Capello to date has found that fluency, so i don't think even though his dead ball skill are still very useful, on the field of play if you only think he is useful for a 5 minute run where hopefully you get a dead-ball situation for him to exploit. Isn't right for me especially when you got guys like Bentley, Young, SWP, Bentley who can offer pace, scare defenses & cross well (Bentley of course), which ATM with England's fluid mid-field play i'd rather have in my squad.

But as i'm saying he could & should be used in a more central role, since if he gets a good go in Italy, his passing game all-round IMHO is better than Carrick or Barry & he should be challenging for a place there not on the wing.
 
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TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Thought they were still 'gelling'…

I don't know who is worse, Kevin-Prince Boateng (:laugh:) or Giovani Dos Santos ?
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Tbh, I don't think Barneys post is a rant, more just a stating of fact.

Bentley left Arsenal because he realised he wasn't good enough to break in to the first-team, so he chose to go to a team where he could coast for much of the season, and just perform in the big matches, and get a press wholly out of proportion to his day/in day/out performances. He was always slagging off arsenal and talking himself up & the press went along with this twaddle. He then moved to Spurs, and quite frankly in the media spotlight of London people have realised what many Blackburn fans and Arsene Wenger knew.

He's not any good.

Spurs losing again, the monotony of this happening should make it less funny, and yet it somehow doesn't:laugh:
Indeed. I think Bentley is a good footballer technically but his passing isn’t good enough to mask the fact that he has no pace, can’t dribble and doesn’t offer anything in the way of defence. He was helped at Rovers because he allowed a free role without any form of reasonability but it was thanks to the likes of Vogel, Tugay, Dunn et cetera that he could do that.
 

Craig

World Traveller
Braga 3 - 0 Portsmouth :boxed:

Would have tipped Portsmouth to win, but then my knowledge of Portugese football could be written on the back of a cigarette packet.
 

Barney Rubble

International Coach
Braga 3 - 0 Portsmouth :boxed:

Would have tipped Portsmouth to win, but then my knowledge of Portugese football could be written on the back of a cigarette packet.
Yeah, poor effort. Not one to make excuses, but the second-string players we had out tonight failed to step up. Can't wait till Diarra, Kranjcar and others are back.
 

Chubb

International Regular
"English Coaches No Nothing"

I can't imagine Harry Redknapp will be shaking this man's hand again.

This is what I personally love about the Portuguese. It's the combination of fantastic skill with totally unrepentant diving, hissy fits, feuds, hacking and spitting that makes them one of world sport's best pantomime villains.
 
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Barney Rubble

International Coach
"English Coaches No Nothing"

I can't imagine Harry Redknapp will be shaking this man's hand again.

This is what I personally love about the Portuguese. It's the combination of fantastic skill with totally unrepentant diving, hissy fits, feuds, hacking and spitting that makes them one of world sport's best pantomime villains.
Well, this guy is clearly a ****, for one thing. For another, I'm liking the fact that Redknapp has, in recent weeks, become a sort of crusader against football's injustices. He's started moaning about crowd abuse, diving, the behaviour of modern footballers - the exact same things fans moan about all the time. I like that we have a manager who's actually on the same
wavelength as the fans.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
And Ian Dowie parts company with QPR.

Not sure what it is with this guy, but he seems to struggle to stay in a job for any length of time despite seemingly being a competent coach.
 

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