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***Official*** New Zealand in Bangladesh

NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
All of a sudden I feel like Richard after so many replies in a row/on the same page. Not to mention having most posts in thread :mellow:
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Who would get dropped, though? Mills and O'Brien don't really deserve to be dropped on recent form, while Patel is keeping Martin's spot warm really for when they get to seaming surfaces.
Add to that Southee may leap frog one of O'Brien and Mills, you'd have to then drop a batsman, and I don't think dropping batsmen is what we need to do when that's our biggest problem.

A re-structuring of the order would be better. McCullum at five as I said earlier is pretty dodgy.

Mind you, could put Macca at 8 and promote Dan to 7 :ph34r:
I'd drop one of the batsmen TBH. I don't have a great deal of faith in Flynn despite this innings and Ryder has his problems too. I know batting is the problem as such but trying to fix that by carrying batsmen who plain and simply aren't very good isn't going to work - allowing Vettori to put slightly more of a stamp on the game with his batting up the order a place or two would be worth the gamble if Franklin was fit IMO because Franklin's quite a decent batsman himself.

I'd leave the team as is for now but I'd be looking towards Franklin coming in for Flynn/Ryder when he proves his bowling fitness.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Only statistically. Actual ability/skill/talent wise I don't think he's as good as any of the specialists in the team. The difference is experience and mentality IMO.
Yeah, his skill level and technique is obviously inferior to someone like Taylor or How, but actually getting the runs is what counts and he's done that. I think he's more likely to do it in the near future as well. I'd be highly surprised if that didn't change but it's true as it stands, for mine.
 

Natman20

International Debutant
I'd leave the team as is for now but I'd be looking towards Franklin coming in for Flynn/Ryder when he proves his bowling fitness.
Thats something that would be a task in itself. What has it been? Like two years now? He might do a Tuffey and may lose his way a little bit.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Close one but Vettori just.

Next match I would consider dropping Patel or O'Brien for Southee.
I didn't have any coverage but dropping O'Brien would seem exceedingly harsh for mine considering he seemed to be NZ's second best bowler in this game...
 

Natman20

International Debutant
With the pitches, I doubt that we would go in without a spinner. :-O

And O'Brien has done nothing wrong, and doesn't deserve to be dropped.
Just thought we needed a better striker. We lacked someone to make breakthroughs at points during this game and imo Southee could potentially be that man. I know that there isn't really room for him atm. Maybe more use of a medium like Ryder during the game would be more beneficial as well.
 

NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
I wouldn't mind that.
Then McCullum can come in at 8 like its an ODI, and just have a license to smash it.

There we go, breaking up the NZT kamikaze posting run.
I think it'd be worth giving Oram a run at 5. I'm starting to get less and less confident about his worth in the team.
As it is his job is to be a lower order bat and the 5th bowler - an all-rounder, really. Except the problem is neither of his disciplines are here nor there in test cricket.
While he's God-like at home with the ball, averaging 22, it balloons to 40+ overseas.
While he can keep it tight (he's bowled some incredibly miserly cricket in the past year), he doesn't seem to have enough to be considered a genuine wicket taker.
He's also inconsistent with the bat, though pulls out a spectacular, often match saving, century out of his arse every now and then, and generally makes 1 score of note per series.

IMO we should give him more batting responsibility to get the best out of him and the team. He could make an effective number 5, as we all know he can score briskly but also construct a patient innings.

If he then fails you could drop him and bring in Franklin, giving a side that looks like Redmond, How, Ryder, Taylor, Flynn, McCullum, Vettori, Franklin, Mills, Southee, Martin/Patel
 

Craig

World Traveller
Cricinfo is so slow.

However, we have been very lucky and I hope this serves a warning to them, that despite Australia losing by 320 runs to India, they will not be this forgiving.
 

Smudge

Hall of Fame Member
And a push forward from Mills from a full-toss exposes Ashraful's TERRIBLE fielding, and they scoot through for the single and the win.
 

NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Haha Flynn. All the hard work, so close to your first milestone then gone!

Well done though, made up for his first innings blob.
 

Zinzan

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Without wanting to make excuses for what was a disgraceful batting performance, I must just point out that there were some mightly unlucky dismissals in that lot.

Still picking NZ to win by 3-4 wickets from here.
Quietly happy with that prediction :happy:
 

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