***Official Australia in India***

[ret]

Unless you've never gotten a prediction wrong at any stage in your life, well you'll excuse me if I tell you to cram it sideways.

well, its not about getting a prediction right or wrong but coming up with amusing stuff most of the time thats what i m referring to .... anyways, that entertains so I m not complaining

another example of your amusing post was when you probably saw Ponting's genius in his comment for Zak .... may be forgetthing that his remarks for Zak applies to him as well as he has done nothing in India as far .... and Zak 'unsual' perfo was much better than his 'unsual' perfo too .... that was pretty ironic for both Ponting and those who saw genius in his comment

 

[ret]

As far i am concerned Australia have got out of jail big time today, with the kind of inexperienced bowling line-up that they had, and that too bowling on this concrete of a pitch, i was expecting them get spanked pretty badly, but 311/5 at the end of Day 1 is not bad at all, considering the top 5 batsmen are back in the hut, now tomorrow morning with a relatively new Australia needs to wrap up the Indian lower order quickly, as the Indian tail has been proving to be quite a pain in the arse for Aussies for sometime now ,so Aussies better not take the Indian tail lightly.

Ist day of the test match and you though Australia was probably in jail and then got out of it!!!!

imo, getting out of the jail would be something like if they escape to a draw when the pitch is doing things on the last day .... and not on the first day when Ind got a 311/5

 

[social]

As far i am concerned Australia have got out of jail big time today, with the kind of inexperienced bowling line-up that they had, and that too bowling on this concrete of a pitch, i was expecting them get spanked pretty badly, but 311/5 at the end of Day 1 is not bad at all, considering the top 5 batsmen are back in the hut, now tomorrow morning with a relatively new Australia needs to wrap up the Indian lower order quickly, as the Indian tail has been proving to be quite a pain in the arse for Aussies for sometime now ,so Aussies better not take the Indian tail lightly.

As far as the bowling is concerned Johnson was easily the best bowler on display, he bowled with some fire and produced very good pace right through the day, Siddle too was very impressive, his bowling figures might not say that, but he bowled very well, he was pacy, bowled in the right areas and whenever he bowled made his presence felt, Lee started off dreadfully in the morning spell he bowled, but came back strongly in the other spells that he bowled through the day (though i still think he needs to attack the stumps a lot more in Indian conditions then he currently does), White again was impressive after the first test, gave the ball good air, bowled in decent areas, so i hope atleast now Ponting gives him the ball ahead of Clarke.

If anything, India got out of jail today

Had Ganguly been given out stumped, as he should have been, they would have been 5-240 on a road with Dhoni and his miserable record vs Oz to face the music

Given that, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that they would have been 7 or 8 wickets down tonight

As it stands, I agree with ret in that India have their noses in front

However, much depends on the Indian tail, Hayden and the rate at which the pitch deteriorates

IF Oz restricts India and IF Hayden gets in on a similar pitch against this Indian attack, things will turn around very quickly

 

[Pratters]

IF Oz restricts India and IF Hayden gets in on a similar pitch against this Indian attack, things will turn around very quickly

There is not only Hayden. Australia bat deep and most of their players are in form coming into this game.

 

[weldone]

Not convinced there's noone in India who can score more than Tendulkar has of late, to be honest.

Yes, there may be a/some batsman/batsmen in India who can score more than Tendulkar has of late. But fortunately he/all of them are playing in the playing XI...In other words, there's none outside the playing XI who can score more than Tendulkar has of late...For example, in the last 1 year Tendulkar's test average is 46.15 against non-minnows...Now, it's pretty average by his standards, but more than good to claim a place in the playing XI...To suggest with 100% confidence that the Badrinaths and the Kaifs (while all very good players) can score more than that in the test level in the long term is plain and simple idiocy...

 

[Manee]

Some thoughts from me. 311/5 is an impressive effort from India against three good bowlers and some able support. Siddle impressed me, he is quick and holds a good line, I could see him dominating given a seaming wicket.

Tendulkar's innings was very good and it is good to see him in the runs again after a drought which was nearing ludicrousy considering the class of the man. I thought that the fireworks display as Tendulkar broke the record was a farce and it detracted from the contest, but Tendulkar's interview, as expected, shows that at least he has his priorities right, contrary to popular belief from internet posters. It is a massive shame though that none of India's batsmen could convert their starts and I only hope that this proves to be a low scoring contest.

The inclusion of Mishra is a shocking (surprising, not poor) one indeed but could prove to have its merits if this pitch disintegrates by the fourth innings. There are pros and cons, but it is an interesting move.

 

[Lambu]

^ I think, given the state of the pitch..it was definitely a good move(if kumble was indeed unfit).

 

[social]

There is not only Hayden. Australia bat deep and most of their players are in form coming into this game.

Yeah sorry

Was trying to make the point that Hayden sets the tone from the start and if he gets in, unlike the first test, the rest have it far easier

 

[weldone]

Can't wait to see Mishra bowl.I really couldn't follow him much in the IPL..has anybody ere seen him bowl?

Yeah, a good bowling al-round prospect...While his batting is nothing great, I feel he's good enough to score a 30 or an odd 50 and is good enough to provide some temporary support to the batsman in the other end...His bowling is quite good...His leg-spinners get good turn...He maintains decent control over his length more often than not, which is so important for spinners...Although I observed his wrong-uns were not that effective (though they are well-disguised, but not much turn and no variation speed-wise), and one area where he can improve is he oevruses the wrong-uns...With that good leg-spinners as stock ball, he should bowl leg-spin in 5 out of 6 deliveries, which he uses 3-4 times an over presently...

In short, if he were an Australian, White's test career would have been over immediately...

Having said all these, I feel Piyush Chawla is as good a bowler as Mishra, and Mishra got a chance over him by a whisker...At this moment nothing to separate the two, except probably Mishra's batting...With the ball, while Chawla possesses a better wrong-un, Mishra's control over line and length is better...The stock ball is very good for both...

 

[Lambu]

things will turn around very quickly

On that and that alone we agree

 

[Lambu]

Yeah, a good bowling al-round prospect...While his batting is nothing great, I feel he's good enough to score an odd 30 or even a 50 and is good enough to provide some temporary support to the batsman in the other end...His bowling is quite good...His leg-spinners get good turn...He maintains decent control over his length more often than not, which is so important for spinners...Although I observed his wrong-uns were not that effective (though they are well-disguised, but not much turn and no variation speed-wise), and one area where he can improve is he oevruses the wrong-uns...With that good leg-spinners as stock ball, he should bowl leg-spin in 5 out of 6 deliveries, which he uses 3-4 times an over presently...

In short, if he were an Australian, White's test career would have been over immediately...

Having said all these, I feel Riyush Chawla is as good a bowler as Mishra, and Mishra got a chance over him by a whisker...At this moment nothing to separate the two, except probably Mishra's batting...

If he gets good turn on his leg breaks,that would definitely get him ahead of Chawla atm..
So does he regularly get a fair amount of spin on his leg break with relatively good control?

 

[weldone]

If he gets good turn on his leg breaks,that would definitely get him ahead of Chawla atm..
So does he regularly get a fair amount of spin on his leg break with relatively good control?

By good turn I don't mean Stuart Macgill-like turn, I meant yeah more than Kumble and just like Chawla...I didn't say great turn or an amazing turn (or a square turn)...It's good turn...But yeah his control over line and length is slightly better than Chawla, though his wrong-uns are not as good...That's why I said there's not much to choose between the two atm bowling-wise...

 

[Lambu]

^ thank you.Sorry had to make you eloborate on that one.But yes..you are right i think when you say nothing much separates them atm.Chawla can be a better bowler actually if only he bowled his googlies less often,but i don't think he'll do it.

 

[Precambrian]

Chawla should be classified as right arm googly who bowls leg spinner as a shock ball.

 

[weldone]

^ thank you.Sorry had to make you eloborate on that one.But yes..you are right i think when you say nothing much separates them atm.Chawla can be a better bowler actually if only he bowled his googlies less often,but i don't think he'll do it.

Mishra too has this tendency, but Chawla does it much more. Even though his googlies are better than Mishra's, he bowls too many of them...

 

[Precambrian]

Mishra has better flight and loop than Chawla. Also googly is to be used as surprise weapon. In Chawla's case googlies are well disguised, however he tends to pitch them short and allows batsmen to play off the pitch. That said, Chawla should be given a chance atleast in the coming England series, considering the success he had in the ODI series there in 2007, and virtually had Kevin Peitersen's number.

 

[weldone]

Yup good contest between the two for a permanent place in the Indian side after Kumble goes (Perhaps Ojha is in the run too)...It'll be interesting to see who passes the acid test...Both will get ample opportunities...Good for Indian cricket to see such a contest for a place between two young players with very good potential...

 

[Precambrian]

Yup good contest between the two for a permanent place in the Indian side after Kumble goes (Perhaps Ojha is in the run too)...It'll be interesting to see who passes the acid test...Both will get ample opportunities...Good for Indian cricket to see such a contest for a place between two young players with very good potential...

Yep, they might never be impressive as the greats, considering how bat-oriented modern cricket has become. But they can be relatively world class.

 

[pasag]

well, its not about getting a prediction right or wrong but coming up with amusing stuff most of the time thats what i m referring to .... anyways, that entertains so I m not complaining

another example of your amusing post was when you probably saw Ponting's genius in his comment for Zak .... may be forgetthing that his remarks for Zak applies to him as well as he has done nothing in India as far .... and Zak 'unsual' perfo was much better than his 'unsual' perfo too .... that was pretty ironic for both Ponting and those who saw genius in his comment

Would advise against the continued baiting of people. It won't be tolerated. It's not just here but in other places as well, this is an official warning, tone it down.

 

[ret]

Would advise against the continued baiting of people. It won't be tolerated. It's not just here but in other places as well, this is an official warning, tone it down.

and what m i exactly baiting for? .... am i getting a sack of gold?

i don't bait unless I am getting some tangible benefits in real world

this is just a friendly banter going on .... it's not my problem if you think thats a bait, it's probably a poor thinking on your part .... before trying to give me any warning, make sure first what you are talking about