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Worst fc record prior to test debut

four_or_six

Cricketer Of The Year
What about Gavin Hamilton? He must have had a pretty crap FC record when he played his test for England.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
What about Gavin Hamilton? He must have had a pretty crap FC record when he played his test for England.
Nah, not at all. Hamilton was a bit of a Darren Pattinson - had really barely played at the time he was selected. Only played 12 matches for Yorkshire between 1994 and 1996, and had just 3 seasons as a regular (1997, 1998 and 1999) when he was picked.

As a result, a couple of outstanding seasons pushed his record to excellent proportions indeed. His batting-average for Yorks was 30.01, his bowling-average 25.00. It's just a shame he lost it so soon after that England tour (was only able to bowl passably for another 2 seasons) and hence never got another shot. Hamilton was a very talented cricketer.
 

four_or_six

Cricketer Of The Year
Nah, not at all. Hamilton was a bit of a Darren Pattinson - had really barely played at the time he was selected. Only played 12 matches for Yorkshire between 1994 and 1996, and had just 3 seasons as a regular (1997, 1998 and 1999) when he was picked.

As a result, a couple of outstanding seasons pushed his record to excellent proportions indeed. His batting-average for Yorks was 30.01, his bowling-average 25.00. It's just a shame he lost it so soon after that England tour (was only able to bowl passably for another 2 seasons) and hence never got another shot. Hamilton was a very talented cricketer.
For some reason I always think that he was selected at least as much, if not more, as a batsman than a bowler. My bad really.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Hamilton was always much more bowler than batsman. He batted eight in his only Test.
 

four_or_six

Cricketer Of The Year
Hamilton was always much more bowler than batsman. He batted eight in his only Test.
Yeah, I saw that now I looked him up on cricinfo. I should always consult cricinfo before I post really... but I can't always be bothered. :)
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Know the feeling. :p Though I usually use CricketWeb or CricketArchive myself, far better and more reliable (CricInfo is usually intolerably slow for me currently).

StatsGuru is about the only thing CricInfo offers that others don't.
 

pup11

International Coach
Hauritz really had no other choice. After returning from India he had a shocking series for QLD, and towards the end of the season he was dropped. He had to go somewhere. He actually wasn't contracted to NSW, but moved there anyway and ended up with a contract. A bold move given they had just recruited Casson from W.A. Early on in his career before Dan Cullen came on the scene he was offered a contract with S.A., but declined. Can't help but think if he had of taken up the offer, he could be a totally different player right now, especially given Terry Jenner works very closely with S.A.'s spinners (not that he's done much for the Cullens).

But, definitely agree with you in regards to our ODI spinner, he really should be fist choices. Almost head and shoulders above other OD spinners in the country, and is more than handy with the bat.
Tbh, if Hauritz wants to resurrect his FC he needs to move elsewhere, maybe Victoria or Queensland, because can't see him getting a chance to play in too many FC games with MacGill and Casson around.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Jason Mendis Krejza will come good soon :)
Haha. I really, really hope you're right. I've spent enough time defending him on here to know I'll look like an idiot if he plays and gets absolutely smashed, even though I've always known it to be a possibility.
 
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Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Tbh, if Hauritz wants to resurrect his FC he needs to move elsewhere, maybe Victoria or Queensland, because can't see him getting a chance to play in too many FC games with MacGill and Casson around.
Don't think MacGill has decided whether he's going to play on or not yet. Even if he does, it wouldn't be for long.

Queensland's a shocking place for spinners. The pitches they prepare don't suit them and handling of them by the state has been shocking in recent times. Maher not being captain anymore could change that I suppose, but Simpson would probably fancy himself ahead of Hauritz anyway. He's already done his lot in with Queensland regardless; he left so he could actually improve his bowling, not so he could get a game more easily.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
I've always rated Krejza to an extent. Not as Test standard, obviously, but as someone who could do much better at First Class level and if he had better surfaces to bowl on and was shown more faith. Being selected for a Test series in the subcontinent shows immense faith in someone with such a poor record as well as providing better surfaces for him to bowl on, so if he bowls like he did today (again), I'll end up looking quite the fool.
 

pup11

International Coach
Haha. I really, really hope you're right. I've spent enough time defending him on here to know I'll look like an idiot if he plays and gets absolutely smashed, even though I've always known it to be a possibility.
You are betting on a dead hound to win you a race tbh.:ph34r:
 

pup11

International Coach
Tassie Tigers?

I do have a few players I really like from that state, but I don't actually go for them no.
Yeah i was taking about Tassie Tigers, as you seem to rate George Bailey and now you were backing Krezja to come good, so i couldn't help but ask.
 
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Julian87

State Captain
On Hauritz; his best chance of forging a FC career is as a bowling all rounder, much like Casson really. Hauritz is a very, very good bat these days. One of the better going around in Sydney first grade from what I have seen and been told.

With a high possibility of Clark, Lee and Bollinger all playing in the test side this summer, NSW could well be playing Hauritz and Casson in a five pronged attack at the SCG.
 

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