$$$****unofficial Ashes In Australia 2006****$$$

[Linda]

Ummm, I saw him on the news and he wasnt suggesting anything about the Ashes, he didnt seem to understand how it worked in the first place. And he was provoked by officials checking the NSW dressing rooms.. he's not just come up with some theory.

 

[greg]

interesting theory from Bracken: Mints caused the reverse swing that won England the Ashes this year!
http://www.supercricket.co.za/default.asp?id=160680&des=article&scat=supercricket/international

It's hardly a new theory.

 

[greg]

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/cricket/story/0,10069,1595853,00.html

 

[Slow Love™]

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/cricket/story/0,10069,1595853,00.html

Not the most convincing denial from Jones....

"It's probably just sour grapes and are you telling me that they've not done it?" questioned Jones. "What's happened on the field, happened on the field and I can't believe he's made that comment. I can't believe that a guy who didn't even play in the series has come out with such a comment.

"If he'd been someone that had played in the series then fair enough because he might have seen something in the field."

 

[shaka]

I am suspicious as to why he would say it like Jones did if he knew that nothing happened.

 

[greg]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/4359118.stm

 

[jlo33692]

Not the most convincing denial from Jones....

"It's probably just sour grapes and are you telling me that they've not done it?" questioned Jones. "What's happened on the field, happened on the field and I can't believe he's made that comment. I can't believe that a guy who didn't even play in the series has come out with such a comment.

"If he'd been someone that had played in the series then fair enough because he might have seen something in the field."

That is what it should be slow love,what s said on field should stay on the field.
But one question about the whinger Fletcher,was he on the field to hear all these comments supposedly made by these bad talking aussies that he is detailing in papers(helping bring undone a great series)? No!!!,so what said on the field obviously doesnt stay on the field as far as the english players are concerned ,so its a bit rich Jones saying that ,dont you think?
Do as i say not as i do comes to mind.hahahahahaha

 

[greg]

That is what it should be slow love,what s said on field should stay on the field.
But one question about the whinger Fletcher,was he on the field to hear all these comments supposedly made by these bad talking aussies that he is detailing in papers(helping bring undone a great series)? No!!!,so what said on the field obviously doesnt stay on the field as far as the english players are concerned ,so its a bit rich Jones saying that ,dont you think?
Do as i say not as i do comes to mind.hahahahahaha

I don't think you had to be on the pitch to hear Gilchrist's comment - the whole world heard it!

 

[Son Of Coco]

Stupid to predict seeing as instead of McGrath, it could be Flintoff in 2006 stepping on a ball on the first day of a test match injuring himself. So its much too far away to predict with way too many variables.

Yeah...I'm actually predicting a ground covered in cricket balls when the English team step onto the Gabba to practice for the First Test 2006

 

[luckyeddie]

I predicted 3-1 Oz before this year's Ashes, so I confidently predict 3-1 to Australia in 2006/7!

Same here.

Put me down for 3-1 to Australia (again) - and I hope that I remain as astute a judge of cricket as ever.

 

[howardj]

Same here.

Put me down for 3-1 to Australia (again) - and I hope that I remain as astute a judge of cricket as ever.

Great to see you back, LuckyEddie. Thought you may have passed away from alcohol poisoning following the Ashes triumph.

 

[luckyeddie]

Great to see you back, LuckyEddie. Thought you may have passed away from alcohol poisoning following the Ashes triumph.

The last few weeks has seen me unable to get access for one reason or another, consequently I've missed out on quite a lot. Anyway, the Ireland contract's finished, my holiday is over and I'm back home again.

Thanks for the kind thoughts - I have been exercising my liver of late somewhat.

 

[open365]

i can't see England having the same strangle hold of the Aus batsman next time round so i'm saying it'll be 2-2.

 

[Richard]

Australia 5-0

Good shout.

Seriously though, this is not a sans-reason random dig. I criticised Simon Jones for effectively saying "we didn't use mints" rather than "who the &%$£ cares if we did?" However............... I wasn't actually aware of exactly what he said, but I am now:

Not the most convincing denial from Jones....

"It's probably just sour grapes and are you telling me that they've not done it?" questioned Jones. "What's happened on the field, happened on the field and I can't believe he's made that comment. I can't believe that a guy who didn't even play in the series has come out with such a comment.

"If he'd been someone that had played in the series then fair enough because he might have seen something in the field."

It seems that actually he did indeed say the latter rather than the former.

I take it back. And so, Sean Fuller, should you.

 

[GIMH]

What did Sean Fuller say?

 

[Richard]

Basically the same thing - that Jones looked a bit dodgy now having said "we didn't use mints". Seems he never actually said such a thing at all.

 

[Burgey]

Did England win the ICC Spirit of Cricket award in 2005? If so,

Give the ****ing thing back!!!!!!!!!!

That famous photo of Flintoff and Lee - we now know Fred was wiping the sticky fingers from the mints on Binga's shirt.

Yet another example of English treachery.

 

[Richard]

Did England win the ICC Spirit of Cricket award in 2005?

Think it was New Zealand TBH, though that may have been 2004.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Basically the same thing - that Jones looked a bit dodgy now having said "we didn't use mints". Seems he never actually said such a thing at all.

Did I actually say anything about Jones? I don't recall. I thought my post on the subject when the mints thing came to light was about (obviously unjustified) media criticism and criticism of Bracken by posters on here. Could be wrong though.

Anyway, it does still seem like a weird comment from Jones in retrospect. He doesn't actually say "we didn't use mints" but he does imply that the issue with Bracken commenting on it is that he wasn't in the series so he wouldn't know. There's a basic implication that it isn't true without actually saying so, which is why it seemed odd at the time, and still does.

 

[Richard]

Hmm, TBF, this was the exchange:

Didn't Simon Jones come out and deny this, and get really pissed off when Bracken suggested this was true?

Yeah, that's the real story here. People came down hard on Bracken on this forum for it as well. Turns out he was right...

Although IIRR it was more like Bracken suggesting it happened ITFP, and Jones coming out with that comment.

Guess Jones was just searching for something scathing to say, didn't think "well who the &%$£ cares if we sucked mints on the field?" was entirely appropriate and instead used "well he didn't play in the series so I couldn't care less what he says".