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*Official* English Football Season 2008-2009

Matteh

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
LOL @ this, frankly. Dropping Rooney from the side would be insanity. Capello's already stated an intention to build the team around him. You'd replace him with whom, Heskey? Crouch? Ashton? Owen?
Rooney's been utter dross for England for at least 3 years now. Has to be Heskey and Owen up front because that combination actually scores goals.
 

Loony BoB

International Captain
Would be interesting to see how often Rooney and Owen have even played together and their record when they do.
 

Johnners

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yeah from what I've see the bloke's got speed to burn (tbf, have only seen him play 2 times on telly, rest has been ut00b/highlights). Certainly couldn't harm to at least give him a crack afaic, especially when the team is obviously struggling to find a way through opposing defences.
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
Carrick's not good enough for Man Utd.
Don't watch us play very often then...

Whether or not you would pick Carrick for England (I would personally, though I recognise it's not a closed issue), no sane person could have watched the last couple of years and come to the conclusion that United don't need him.
 
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aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Don't watch us play very often then...

Whether or not you would pick Carrick for England (I would personally, though I recognise it's not a closed issue), no sane person could have watched the last couple of years and come to the conclusion that United don't need him.
Word out, shocking Carrick bashing. If you didn't rate him highly before United signed him (i for one didn't), you just got to now. One of the best examples of this was in the CL semi-final vs Barcelona @ OT that i was at & he along with Scholes really controlled the mid-field ahead of Xavi, Toure & Iniesta. Since then i was convinced he has moved on from the square passer that he was at Tottenham to United (and hopefully one day England's) version of Pirlo.
 

Matteh

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Would be interesting to see how often Rooney and Owen have even played together and their record when they do.
Might actually work this out later, nothing better to do itbt.
Code:
Rooney-Owen    Apps: 20 Goals: 11/8 Total: 20/19
Heskey-Owen    Apps: 13 Goals: 2/8  Total: 13/10
Smith-Owen     Apps: 6  Goals: 1/1  Total: 6/2
Crouch-Owen    Apps: 5  Goals: 5/5  Total: 5/10
Rooney-Defoe   Apps: 5  Goals: 1/0  Total: 5/1
Rooney-Cole    Apps: 4  Goals: 0/1  Total: 4/1
Crouch-Defoe   Apps: 3  Goals: 5/2  Total: 3/7 
Defoe-Owen     Apps: 3  Goals: 1/1  Total: 3/2
Rooney-Johnson Apps: 3  Goals: 1/0  Total: 3/1
Rooney-Crouch  Apps: 3  Goals: 0/0  Total: 3/0
Owen-Cole      Apps: 3  Goals: 0/0  Total: 3/0
Vassell-Owen   Apps: 2  Goals: 2/1  Total: 2/3
Rooney-Heskey  Apps: 2  Goals: 1/0  Total: 2/1
Ashton-Defoe   Apps: 1  Goals: 0/2  Total: 1/2
Crouch-Cole    Apps: 1  Goals: 1/0  Total: 1/1
Smith-Johnson  Apps: 1  Goals: 0/0  Total: 1/0
Beattie-Owen   Apps: 1  Goals: 0/0  Total: 1/0
Rooney-Bent    Apps: 1  Goals: 0/0  Total: 1/0


Goals:

Owen: 25
Rooney: 14
Crouch: 10
Defoe: 5
Heskey: 2
Vassell: 2
Smith: 1
Ashton: 0
Beattie: 0
Bent: 0
Johnson: 0
Rooney/Owen looks impressive, but it's been gash since the end of 2004. Crouch/Owen or Crouch/Defoe the shocks.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
For those who have Sky, any signs that the Croatia game will be on Sky or is it just on setanta?
 

Agent TBY

International Captain
Wow, find it hard to believe Owen-Heskey started only 13 games. Shows how crocked Owen was at the time, really.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Heskey did play on the left of midfield on occasion, so that might skew some of his apparent partnerships.

Not really surprised Crouch + someone fast has lots of goals, although that again is skewed by involving some rubbish opponents.

On the other hand England have played plenty of rubbish opponents without Crouch playing and have struggled.
 

roseboy64

Cricket Web Content Updater
"Not seeming to be doing much" is not usually an indicator of immense footballing talent. Carrick's not good enough for Man Utd. If he was a man of his word then he would have joined Pompey instead of Spurs, and where would he be now if that had happened? He wouldn't be an £18million Man Utd midfielder, I guarantee you. You lot don't need him.
Exactly why I chose those words. TBH, I noticed him more when he played for Spurs but he played a different role then. as Towns said he just brings an extra dimension to the attack. Not the best in defence around but he can hold his own and Hargreaves is there to pick up the slack. Also, with the passing ability and vision he has he'd be awesome to pick out the runs of Cole and Rooney and might link up well with Gerrard playing him some nice through balls.
 

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