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Symonds sent home
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pup11
International Coach
I think i find the whole situation pretty lame, ok CA and the team-management felt Symonds hasn't been disciplined enough, so they told him, ok mate we're not happy with your conduct, so we want you to pack your bags and go home, and you are out of the series.
As far i am concerned the whole incident should have come to an end then and there, Symonds made a mistake he was punished and that's it, and he should have been a certainty for the next series then (of course they could have warned him before picking him for the Indian tour that any such incidents in the future would have even more serious consequences), but i can't get the whole crap from the Aussie team-management that we would have him as soon as he gets his head straight, they are acting as if its Symonds who decided to give this series a skip, he has been banned for this series and when he comes back and is stupid enough to repeat something like this then a stricter punishment could be handed over to him..
As far i am concerned the whole incident should have come to an end then and there, Symonds made a mistake he was punished and that's it, and he should have been a certainty for the next series then (of course they could have warned him before picking him for the Indian tour that any such incidents in the future would have even more serious consequences), but i can't get the whole crap from the Aussie team-management that we would have him as soon as he gets his head straight, they are acting as if its Symonds who decided to give this series a skip, he has been banned for this series and when he comes back and is stupid enough to repeat something like this then a stricter punishment could be handed over to him..
pup11
International Coach
Simmering Symonds ponders pulling the pin after falling out with teammates
Reading this makes me wonder whether we have seen the last of Andrew "Roy" Symonds in Aussie colours.
Reading this makes me wonder whether we have seen the last of Andrew "Roy" Symonds in Aussie colours.
Perm
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
You're missing the point. What's to say Symonds doesn't do something similar in India? His recent actions have made him a liability and he shouldn't be selected until team management can be 100% certain that he will be committed to the team and has put his indiscretions behind him.
Son Of Coco
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
The fishing's crap in India.
(I'm speaking out of my arse, I have no idea about fishing in India)
Perm
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Exactly right, discipline is a very important part of cricket. You can be as talented as you like but you won't go very far if you've got a poor attitude, as it appears Symonds does.
Ahmed_Tariq
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
I pretty much wonder that too. Well, if that DOES happen, Symonds will have nobody to blame but himself.
howardj
International Coach
Sounds like a "poor me, nobody loves me" type attitude.
He's brought this on himself, the same way Michael Slater inflicted damage upon his career.
Symonds is 33 years old. Time to grow up, I think.
Perm
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Ahmed_Tariq
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Ahmed_Tariq
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Lol, yeah.
pup11
International Coach
That's what i am saying if he is stupid enough to act like this again, then just throw him out of the side for good, but how would Symonds be able to prove he is sober now by sitting at home, btw iirc the last time Aussies toured India for the Odi's, Symonds and Clarke went fishing in Kochi on the eve of the Odi there, so one can't rule out the possibilty of Symonds brinnging his fishing rod to India if he is picked.
Perm
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Well the amount of time between this incident and the tour of India is sufficiently small enough for very little to actually change his attitude, given his past indiscretions. I agree with CA on this issue, Symonds needs a decent spell on the sidelines.
social
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
He's averaged 80+ over the last 2 years
Just imagine how well he'd do if he toed the party line
social
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Michael Slater had bipolar and was clinically depressed
Unfortunately, the management at the time was so busy trying to get him out of the team for not "presenting himself" that they didnt bother to consider whether one of their "mates" actually needed help
It was actually a pretty shameful episode
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
The same would have been the logic the last time he was pulled up severely. (Refer : Ponting's book) He has had enough time to think it over and prove that he is sober - dont you think ? And he has failed.
And, the same logic will be offered the next time he is suspended. How many times is enough, is not for him to decide, is it ?
Perm
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yeah, with an incredible amount of good fortune contributing heavily to that average. Now he's risking that success by acting like a goon, whereas he could've had a reasonable stint at Test level and played for a few more years if his attitude wasn't as poor.He's averaged 80+ over the last 2 years
Just imagine how well he'd do if he toed the party line
Ahmed_Tariq
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
I agree with you completely, Perm.
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
I am amazed that for a player who has repeatedly transgressed the line of discipline, who has clearly been taken to task on this before (his current manager says so, his current skipper says so, and his previous skipper put it in his book in very strong terms) and yet refuses to mend his ways, acts like a law unto himself and we want to talk of how good a player he is !!
Whats that got to do with it ?
Surely the time to consider that is past.
Surely he has survived his earlier misdemeanors BECAUSE of that consideration.
Surely those who are running Australian cricket, particularly the captain, past captain and manager (all three were directly involved with the current decision) are aware of his cricketing abilities.
Surely they have considered everything and YET feel that Symonds deserves the punishment meted out to him.
Surely there is no conspiracy to ruin his 'brilliant' cricketing career and actions are being taken detrimental to Australian cricket (which is what matters more than anything else) just to settle some personal scores or to pamper some individual (in this case three individuals) egos.
I can understand Symonds fans being upset with their hero being out of the game but surely, we cant lose complete sight of objectivity.
In any event, unlike the sub-continent, the Australian system surely has built in mechanisms to allow for a redressal of any grave injustice done to a cricketer (any cricketer irrespective of his statistics) and Symonds will surely appeal against it if that is the case.
Whats that got to do with it ?
Surely the time to consider that is past.
Surely he has survived his earlier misdemeanors BECAUSE of that consideration.
Surely those who are running Australian cricket, particularly the captain, past captain and manager (all three were directly involved with the current decision) are aware of his cricketing abilities.
Surely they have considered everything and YET feel that Symonds deserves the punishment meted out to him.
Surely there is no conspiracy to ruin his 'brilliant' cricketing career and actions are being taken detrimental to Australian cricket (which is what matters more than anything else) just to settle some personal scores or to pamper some individual (in this case three individuals) egos.
I can understand Symonds fans being upset with their hero being out of the game but surely, we cant lose complete sight of objectivity.
In any event, unlike the sub-continent, the Australian system surely has built in mechanisms to allow for a redressal of any grave injustice done to a cricketer (any cricketer irrespective of his statistics) and Symonds will surely appeal against it if that is the case.