ret
International Debutant
you hardly saw such dip in form with Wasim ....one of the reasons why i rate him as Pak's best
on the contrary, Imran appears to be pissed after his conversation with Richards
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Greatest Pakistani fast bowler - Wasim or Imran?
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Shaggy Alfresco
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ret
International Debutant
what amazes me is how saying that Imran got swept is translated as Imran is a crap bowler by some
if you had any doubt then the thread's title 'Greatest' was enough to give a clue .... clearly, we are debating which one is the 'greatest' and since any 'who's greatest' comparison is close, it's the minor things that separates the greats, imo
Fusion
Global Moderator
Are you seriously suggesting that Imran getting swept by Viv proves that Wasim was better? I’m sure I can find a delivery, if I looked hard enough, where Wasim looked ordinary against a great batsman.what amazes me is how saying that Imran got swept is translated as Imran is a crap bowler by some
if you had any doubt then the thread's title 'Greatest' was enough to give a clue .... clearly, we are debating which one is the 'greatest' and since any 'who's greatest' comparison is close, it's the minor things that separates the greats, imo
Incidentally, I have firmly changed my mind on the subject of this poll. I voted for Wasim back then, but now would comfortably place Imran ahead.
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
At his peak he looked absolutely unplayable. He was fast, had great control and swung the ball late, very late. Bowled a great bouncer with no apparent effort which kept coming at you.
I can understand the younger fan's fixation with their heroes but no Pakistani bowler from the 1960's (when I started watching Test cricket) till date comes close to Imran at his best.
ret
International Debutant
What I m suggesting is that I have seen an ineffective Imran a lot more than an ineffective Wasim .... ofc, in their prime both of them were devastating .... i cannot imagine anyone sweeping Wasim whether in his prime or not
As an Indian fan, I usually had fingers in my mouth when Wasim was bowling coz of his ability to change the game than any other Pak bowler .... and ofc I have seen Wasim getting smashed be it in Sharjah or the 03 WC but you will usually see him bowl a few unplayable balls in between too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG6pAcrxG_k
here is a good example, where we see Imran and a young Wasim bowling together .... which to some extent shows why I rank Wasim as Pak's best
ofc, you can't go wrong with picking Imran, who as a cricketer is the best Pak has produced. But purely as a bowler, I rate Wasim as Pak's best
Aamir Alauddin
Banned
yeah i also voted for wasim back then, but in retrospect would place imran ahead, although not by much...
ret
International Debutant
Sanz
Hall of Fame Member
Just Curious - What is it that you have discovered about Imran Vs. Akram that you didn't know before.
Having read your opinions on Imran Vs. Akram in last few months, I was kinda surprised that you two voted for Akram in 2006.
Fusion
Global Moderator
For me, it was going back and viewing as many matches as I could of Imran bowling. I pretty much saw Wasim’s entire career, and after watching Imran’s footage, I believe Imran to be better. Also, I came to place greater importance on Imran’s successes against the West Indies, one of the best teams of all time. That’s not to say that Wasim’s record is bad against the good teams of his era, I just think Imran’s feats are more impressive. Imran’s 40 wickets for 13.95 in the ‘82 series against a formidable Indian lineup on dead wickets is as devastating a spell as any fast bowler in history. I don’t think I’ve seen Wasim have a similar series in his career (not just talking about total wickets, but the overall performance).
Thats a huge injustice to Wasim's talent . He brought to international scene by Miandad straight from street literally (thats without much domestic experience) .And he took a 10 fer even before Imran trained him any thing .Imran got a talent to nourish ,he did .Otherwise Imran can't make a Mohammed Sami into a champion .U know what i meant .Waqar being better ,well statistically he struggled against two best batting sides Australia and India . For ability ,i think Wasim was better than him and ''most of the batsmen faced '' him think so .
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Got brain washed by the geniuses of CW
Fusion
Global Moderator
Yup. All of my opinions are based on what the "geniuses" of CW guide me toward. I'm about to open a thread asking them whether Bradman really was that good. Let's see what they say (I hope they say "yes", otherwise all these years I was clearly smoking crack thinking the bugger can play).Got brain washed by the geniuses of CW
nightprowler10
Global Moderator
Wasim Akram, just. Imran has his own place in the annals of cricket history and he worked very very hard to get that status, but I'll always choose Wasim over Imran as a pure bowler. I idolized him as a kid so I suppose you can call it bias.
Geez ,overreaction .I was fooling around .Each and every one can have an opinion .But how it changes each year is what i said in a lighter way .
.u r a knowldgeable person ,every one here knows that .So what is the confusion if i said something .
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