Zimbabwe's Future?

[LA ICE-E]

It's weird though, its astonishing how politicized it is. Such an overwhelming percentage of actions supported by England are also supported by South Africa, Australia and New Zealand, and opposed by the Asian block, and an equally large amount of actions are supported by India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, and Zimbabwe and opposed by the rest. West Indies tends to be the only board that doesn't seem to be in one camp or another most of the time, followed by South Africa.

I can understand that some politicization is inevitable, but this is ridiculous. BCCI were powerless for most of cricket's history, and the Imperial Cricket Council pretty much ran cricket like their own personal fiefdom, and India just look like they're trying to just do some payback, and unfortunately it shows their childishness, hurts cricket, and keeps the whole thing fractured. Obviously, BCCI are not alone in fault, but they are a big part of the corruption. You can't have a body made up of corrupt politicians and have avenues of advancement within the organization determined solely by politics, and then expect that body to act in an altruistic manner in the international stage. Unfortunately, something radical needs to happen to the internal structure of the BCCI before we see some changes at the ICC level. The rot runs deep.

Haha, that could be a decent article...just slag off on the BCCI for eight paragraphs.

good things came out of when the english and aussies did it thought, nothing good is coming out of BCCI controlling it.

 

[silentstriker]

Zimbabwe cricket chief questions other board's tough actions

 

[LA ICE-E]

Zimbabwe cricket chief questions other board's tough actions

It doesn't even have to be about the politics though. Their cricket standard isn't even close to even bangladesh. They aren't even really having domestic tournaments or anything, they don't really meet the criteria of being a test member right now.

 

[Langeveldt]

thank god North Korea don't play cricket ...other wise ICC would have to lead by example in that case also

They've got a number of wristy left handers.. We just don't know about them..

 

[Prince EWS]

Their cricket standard isn't even close to even bangladesh.

DWTA. They've made some strides in their last few ODI series, particularly with the bat. I believed their batting was actually superior to Bangladesh at ODI level until Saqibul, Raqibul and Kapali decided to score tons but I still think it's pretty close.

What remains to be seen is whether the players are still in the country after recent events.

They aren't even really having domestic tournaments or anything

DWTA
Furthermore...

Hell they even had a Twenty20 competition!

Their domestic competitions have just been completed with few problems. Just prior to that they sent two sides to compete in various South African domestic competitions.

Purely from a top-level cricketing perspective, they're quite comparable to Bangladesh at the moment - a feat that's actually quite remarkable given the state of the country. They're not currently playing Tests so that isn't the issue.

Don't get me wrong - I think they should be banned as well, but it has to be for "political" reasons. The country itself is going further and further into turmoil each day and the cricket board squanders ICC grants, shows little interest in grass-roots cricket and is fundamentally corrupt.

Looking purely at the current national teams, they're not far away from Bangladesh. But the issue is a lot bigger than just that - action needs to be taken against the country and the board. It's very unfortunate for the players involved but there's only so much you can tolerate.

 

[LA ICE-E]

DWTA. They've made some strides in their last few ODI series, particularly with the bat. I believed their batting was actually superior to Bangladesh at ODI level until Saqibul, Raqibul and Kapali decided to score tons but I still think it's pretty close.

What remains to be seen is whether the players are still in the country after recent events.



DWTA
Furthermore...

Hell they even had a Twenty20 competition!

Their domestic competitions have just been completed with few problems. Just prior to that they sent two sides to compete in various South African domestic competitions.

Purely from a top-level cricketing perspective, they're quite comparable to Bangladesh at the moment - a feat that's actually quite remarkable given the state of the country. They're not currently playing Tests so that isn't the issue.

Don't get me wrong - I think they should be banned as well, but it has to be for "political" reasons. The country itself is going further and further into turmoil each day and the cricket board squanders ICC grants, shows little interest in grass-roots cricket and is fundamentally corrupt.

Looking purely at the current national teams, they're not far away from Bangladesh. But the issue is a lot bigger than just that - action needs to be taken against the country and the board. It's very unfortunate for the players involved but there's only so much you can tolerate.

What does DWTA mean? No I was talking about now, like every recently when everything in the country started to go form worse(which could still have a cricket team) to terrible. But I do stand corrected I wasn't aware of the domestic competitions because they were overshadowed by the turmoil they are in.

But I disagree on that they are close to Bangladesh in cricketing terms because currently they are more like the top associates who indeed are not that far from Bangladesh- Ireland beating Bangladesh A regularly in their recent tour. So in that they do not fully meet the requirements of being a full member country but is more like a country who will get it soon as such they should be demoted in cricketing terms until they get back up there. Politics and Sports shouldn't mix until the sports can not be sustained in that country because of political reasons. Hell look at china, one of the worst governments but they can sustain sports team so they are allowed to play but if Zimbabwe can't sustain a test level team right now because of political reasons than they should be demoted until they can. It should always be about only cricket but the politics in the country effects cricket so much that it cripples cricket.

 

[biased indian]

What does DWTA mean?

Disagree With The Above

 

[laksh_01]

I agree on onething if other sporting bodies allow Zimbabwe Y should'nt Cricket?

 

[Richard]

A more apt question would be: why do other sporting bodies allow Zimbabwe?

 

[biased indian]

A more apt question would be: why do other sporting bodies allow Zimbabwe?

Ya sports is bad but business is not

Link

 

[TT Boy]

A more apt question would be: why do other sporting bodies allow Zimbabwe?

Well in the case of football simply because their association is not politicised. However, FIFA’s model would be completely unworkable in cricket because practically every board other than the ECB, Cricket Australia and the New Zealand cricket board is politicised.

 

[andruid]

A more apt question would be: why do other sporting bodies allow Zimbabwe?

Because I fear it is only in cricket where Westerncountries like England and Australia have to risk the indignity of touring Zimbabwe on a regular basis.

 

[andruid]

Well in the case of football simply because their association is not politicised. However, FIFA’s model would be completely unworkable in cricket because practically every board other than the ECB, Cricket Australia and the New Zealand cricket board is politicised.

So not true...FIFa generally seems to let anything go so long as their flagship projects (eg the goals projecs are untouched)

 

[steds]

What does DWTA mean?

Don't Worry, Tubular Antagonists.

 

[TT Boy]

So not true...FIFa generally seems to let anything go so long as their flagship projects (eg the goals projecs are untouched)

You’re from Kenya so you should know first hand how ‘tough’ FIFA are, considering they have banned and threatened to ban Kenya God knows how many times since 2000 for political interference.

Also, its not just African nations such as Chad, the Congo and Kenya which seemingly get banned periodically each year but even Greece after their triumph at Euro 2004 were swiftly suspended by FIFA as soon as the Hellenic Football Federation became 'politicised'.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/5141866.stm

 

[Marius]

Why are India refusing to make a stand against Zimbabwe? Is it because they know by not supporting action against Zim, the Zimbos will be in their debt, and will support them at the ICC?

One would hope the democracies of the cricket playing world stand together against tyranny in Zim, but this isn't happening. The BCCI has again made it clear that they worship one god, and that god is not cricket, it is money.

 

[Richard]

the Congo

Zaire TBH.

 

[silentstriker]

Why are India refusing to make a stand against Zimbabwe? Is it because they know by not supporting action against Zim, the Zimbos will be in their debt, and will support them at the ICC?

Zimbabwe already supports India 100% of the time. They want to keep that going.

 

[TT Boy]

Zaire TBH.

Zaire no longer exists TBH.

 

[andruid]

You’re from Kenya so you should know first hand how ‘tough’ FIFA are, considering they have banned and threatened to ban Kenya God knows how many times since 2000 for political interference.

Also, its not just African nations such as Chad, the Congo and Kenya which seemingly get banned periodically each year but even Greece after their triumph at Euro 2004 were swiftly suspended by FIFA as soon as the Hellenic Football Federation became 'politicised'.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/5141866.stm

The jokers who get Kenya banned because of their gerry mandering are hardly any worse than the jokers FIFA insist on working with they just lick Sepp Blatter's boots better. That point made I think that as much as the ICC should take a lead since they have the very first opportunity to do so, a suspension/ban from them will not help anyone if it is not backed up by suspensions by other bodies who have much more influence on the Zimbabwe govt such as SADC, The AU, COMESA etc...