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**Official** Australia in West Indies
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sideshowtim
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It has been quite clear for a couple of years now that MacGill isn't the same bowler he once was. He has shown little, if any signs of it.
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Most of those wickets weren't taken in the last 8 years, though.
Magill hasn't just looked short of form recently but like he's past his best. The only surprising aspect of what's happened here is that he's picked in this Test, has bowled pretty ordinarily so far and..... people are surprised.
Being billed as the second coming of Warne probably hasn't helped. Must frustrate him no end that now he's finally got his chance to cement a place as number 1 spinner in the side, he can't do it.
if u play 90% of your matches on dust bowls like sydney....my laura can take wickets at less avh than 28.14
PhoenixFire
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Did anyone seriously think that MacGill was the second coming of Warne?
sideshowtim
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Fair point. MacGill has been used as a horses for courses bowler throughout his career...and this has certainly helped his Test statistics. Perhaps his first-class record is a better indication of what he can achieve when he plays on a variety of surfaces. Still a very good record by most people's standards though.if u play 90% of your matches on dust bowls like sydney....my laura can take wickets at less avh than 28.14
With that being said, this isn't exactly a flat track that offers nothing to the spinners. There is good turn and a variation of pace out in that pitch and a good spinner would be able to exploit it...MacGill just seems as though he's had his day.
Manee
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The brown hair was a dead giveaway of the negative, itbt.
sideshowtim
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Maybe not the second coming, but it was assumed that the transition between Warne and another spinner would be as seamless as possible with MacGill there.
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No-one who's faced him this year. He's bowling no differently in this match to what he did against SL. Whether the pitch is a dust-bowl or a road, if you can't land the ball on it before getting to the batsman, it ain't gonna spin!
Manee
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You have to give him more than a few sporadicly scattered matches to prove himself.
PhoenixFire
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It was a pretty naive assumption ITBT. You are always going to suffer a hangover from having someone like Warne retire, unless you are very lucky and have someone that is nearly as good (which MacGill clearly isn't) as him.
sideshowtim
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Considering MacGill's Test record and also how well MacGill was bowling around the time those assumptions were made, I don't think they were too naive. There was a time when he was comfortably the second best leggy in the world and he couldn't crack the national team. That's when those 'assumptions' were at their fiercest. Most people who have followed MacGill over the last couple of years, however, have been uncertain as to how he'd go as a replacement for Warney.
aussie tragic
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Well actually, since May 2000 he's taken 145 wkts @ 30.55 so most of his wkts were taken in the last 8 years
PhoenixFire
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Yeah, I mean he did bowl well for a period of time and he was the second best leggie in the world (not really saying much), but even then, you could tell that he wasn't in the same league as Warne. I do get where you are coming from though.
sideshowtim
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At last. Well deserved wicket by Bing.
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Amazing stats
Bravo is scoring at rate of 74
Rate of 120 off MacGill
Rate of 22 off everyone else
Back to current issue, MacGill hasnt been the bowler that everyone hoped would replace Warne for a few years. Unfortunately, he appears to be one of those guys whose permanent chance has come too late
Bravo is scoring at rate of 74
Rate of 120 off MacGill
Rate of 22 off everyone else
Back to current issue, MacGill hasnt been the bowler that everyone hoped would replace Warne for a few years. Unfortunately, he appears to be one of those guys whose permanent chance has come too late