No, I'm not. I'm saying Oram is our most experienced batsman. He's been a regular (when fit) in the side since 2002/03.Taylor is 23 and we are calling him our most experienced batsman. I'm going to try and stop moping about the lack of any adequate batsmen aside from the picked hopefuls on a whims.
I BLAME SINCLAIR FOR NOT STEPPING UP.
While I agree that technique is important, I also believe that the two most important things in defining a good batsmen are run scoring and consistency. In that respect, Vettori has been New Zealand's best batsman, since Mark Richardson retired, and by some distance too.
TBF I meant over their careers, not just at he present point.
Vettori's batting career summary (minus Bangladesh and Zimbabwe)
Oh please, vettori really only became a batsman about 5 or 6 years ago, to compensate for the decline in quality of his bowling after his back injury. Since the start of 2002, he averages close to 33.
When did we ever have a batting lineup that's fully blossomed in full bloom for the last 15 seasons? (That's one career been and gone for a lot of batsmen.)
Nah, from 2002 to 2004 we had a very good batting lineup, arguably as good as anything we had in the 1980's, with Richardson solid at the top, Fleming, Astle, McMillan, Cairns and Styris all at their peak. That lineup had, effectively, its last hurrah on our last tour to England where they generally held up very well, passing 350 four times, and only failing to make 200 once (only to be let down by some attrocious bowling).When did we ever have a batting lineup that's fully blossomed in full bloom for the last 15 seasons? (That's one career been and gone for a lot of batsmen.)
The last lineup that I thought was mature and decent was when Martin Crowe and Greatbatch were in the lineup. Aside from that, it's always "potential" and "technically dodgy" that sums up our batting efforts. No other country relies more on the bowlers to do the bulk of the winning of a test match than us (ie relying on the opposition to have batting collapses) in tests.
Agree with this post. We had a good batting line up around that time. In the last few years we've seen a fair whack of experienced batsmen retire, get mucked around by selectors and/or go to the ICL.
So one can only hope for the best for one D Flynn, J Marshall and T Southee. One ND fan that is lol. Any one of these ND fellas get a 40+ average in the test series and I'm a happy fan. 
Worst comment. Maybe in time he'll become a useful #9, but we shouldn't be pushing him to be an all-rounder like Vettori (I'm using that term pretty loosely). Southee played an extraordinary innings, one that nobody could possibly have expected, because he's never shown anything like that before.
Well, actually he has, doing it at both U19 and FC level from time to time. But I agree, the knock was a bit of a fluke, and given how early he is in his career, he should really just be focusing on his bowling. His batting really doesn't have that much in common with Vettori. He backs away from anything remotely resembling pace every delivery, his area of strength seems to be over mid wicket and down the ground, rather than through backward point, and he has quite a bit of difficulty dealing with short stuff. I expect the coaches to have some discussions with him about his batting in years to come, as he clearly has the hand-eye coordination to be good at it, but for now, he really just needs to focus on bowling, which means we'll continue to see those types of innings only once a year or so.
In time. His debut at bat came 1 hour after he finished his bowling spell of 5-55. I watched him bat in U19 tournament and he was much better composed facing 125 average bowling. That being said, U19s meh. Corey Anderson definitely found out even at NZ FC level he's some way off from his batting dominance he showed in that U19 semi.
Best Tim Southee related post ever.
Yeah AWTA. Think we should let him play his own game rather than trying to turn him into someone who used to play for us.Best Tim Southee related post ever.
