NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Imagine Bruce Martin will make the squad again. Hopefully Houghton does as well.
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HeathDavisSpeed
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Interesting choices. Firstly, I will say that I've seen a lot less domestic cricket this year than in any other of the last 2 years. Now, out of those players, I've never actually seen Guptill or Bennet(t?) play. I've seen all the others, but I've never seen Weston keep. Frankly, I can't imagine he's better than Bevan Griggs, but unless Stu Mills comes back to cricket, there's not much to choose. The other candidate, BJ Watling hasn't impressed me that much to be honest.
Realistically, I can't see Hiini or Houghton getting in there (or Weston for that matter) when they actually come to pick the team. Houghton's too raw, and whilst I rate him (I picked him before he'd even played for Wellington as I recall), I would imagine the selectors will reserve judgement until next year. I rate Hiini too, but I can't really see much reason for having Scott, Hiini and Elliott in the squad. The rest seem pretty reasonable selections for my money; though I would be very surprised if the selectors didn't pick James Marshall and Craig Cumming. Other left-field picks ay include Todd Astle, Corey Anderson or Aaron Redmond.
bombdaddy68er
Cricket Spectator
hes got a bad reputation at otago cricket ay, gotta bit of arrogance about him, apart from that hes a good sort. b-radikal roddens a champ
bombdaddy68er
Cricket Spectator
get a brain u cant say that. they both have theyr gud and bad days. marshal performs pretty gud at domestic level so hes got a bit on cumming. cumming has diabetes and he scored 86* inda final so hes a rockstar in his own right
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Neither exactly what I'd call a chance then really, so a superlative innings.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Last I checked Marshall had done quite a bit less than Cumming at the domestic level, hence said comment.
Cumming needs to stay out the side. How has had a spell away from the national set-up and has worked on his technical faults (even if he was shown up on the faster Australian wickets - but who hasn't?) - we need guys like him. Plus he's younger and very fast in the field, he adds more to the team side of the game. Hopefully Fulton will take a look at what How has done.
Cummings seems to get out the same way and hasn't shown any progression whatsoever. Someone like Papps (dependent on form) should be in front of him.
Cummings seems to get out the same way and hasn't shown any progression whatsoever. Someone like Papps (dependent on form) should be in front of him.
Mixmasterreece
U19 Debutant
I've never seen Weston keep either, but if he can, he should be there - his stats are quite remarkable.
Anderson I would obviously like to see there, Redmond is getting on these days and probably missed his chance, and Todd Astle hasnt really done anything since hitting the scene.
Mixmasterreece
U19 Debutant
I could live with that team but take issue with a couple of selections.
Papps - we know what he's capable of, and I cant see him benefiting from going on an A tour at all. His problem is a case of the 'yips' at international level and any form shown on this tour wouldnt necessarily be a good indicator of him being ready to hit the international circuit again.
Houghton - To be honest I haven't seen a lot of him so its hard to comment. Ive seen more of Hira, and thats why i picked him. I think 2 years, Nic Beard will probably be better than both of them.
Nicol - God loves a spinner who can actually hold his own with the bat. I know he start off as batsman who could bowl a bit, but his bowling has kicked on so much this year he could almost be picked as a second spinner in a test lineup.
Todd - Fallen away slightly in the 2nd half of the year.
Hiini - see above.
Southee - Not sure if he will be on the A tour. From all accounts he seems destined to tour England so im not sure if it would be wise after a long tour to then send him away with the A's.
Scott - Good stats I must admit, but I have never rated him. He seems to come from a long line of journeyman who have performed, year after year, in the domestic comp but never made the step up. See Lance Hamilton. Just not quick enough, and not consistent enough to get away with it like Vaas. Will be cannonfodder.
Mixmasterreece
U19 Debutant
Fulton's current woes arent due to technical deficiencies more to do with a complete lack of confidence after getting shoved round the order from 3 - 6.
Mixmasterreece
U19 Debutant
Ok well then he would be my next cab off the rank behind McCullum. He is far more capable of batting in the middle order than McGlashan, Griggs or Hopkins.
HeathDavisSpeed
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I wasn't saying I would pick them. Knowing the selectors though, there's bound to be a couple of bolters in the squad and these guys seem the most likely suspects.
Mixmasterreece
U19 Debutant
HeathDavisSpeed
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Don't have time to go through this now, but I will later. Personally, for an A Team I think you need a good mix of young up and comers who will learn from the experience with a couple of experienced heads to impart the knowledge and to lead the team. For this, people like Cumming or Papps would be ideal.
Days of Grace
International Captain
Happy times is 'ere.
O'Brien injures his toe and Gillespie is called in as cover. Maybe there is such a thing as justice?
O'Brien injures his toe and Gillespie is called in as cover. Maybe there is such a thing as justice?
Mixmasterreece
U19 Debutant
6 of one, half a dozen of the other. Doesn't make our lineup any stronger, or any weaker.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Yessssssssssssssssssss!
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Gillespie>>>>>>>O'Brien. Has everyone forgotten Gillespie's 5'fer on debut in a match where we got owned?
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Well it might not do, but has Gillespie not currently got rather more to recommend him than O'Brien?
From a want-to-face-the-best-opposition-possible POV, I'd far rather see Gillespie than O'Brien.