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International Coach
Yeah I thought the same, some of those balls came racing off the bat and even if the ground isn't the largest, some of those strikes by Ryder and McCullum went friggin' miles!Geez there was some clean hitting there.
Yeah I thought the same, some of those balls came racing off the bat and even if the ground isn't the largest, some of those strikes by Ryder and McCullum went friggin' miles!Geez there was some clean hitting there.
Yeah. I think Ryder is gonna be good but I was just thinking about how many nz batsmen come on the scene, do well in their first few games and then dont quite kick on.Ryder got interviewed tonight on the main news programme in NewZealand, I think they may be getting carried away, I think they should wait until the tests, before they start singing his praises.
Had a big shindig on Saturday night, and have work tomorrow morning.Online this late on your birthday Jack?
good stuffHighlights of yesterdays match. I pretty much included every boundary of McCullum and Ryder
As for his inital selection, we all know that you'd struggle to name an XI based on outstanding domestic List A form, so there's always going to be hunches. Bopara was certainly no worse a pick than the guys you've mentioned, and we could all add to that list fairly easily. Admirable restraint on your part, btw, to the previous post. Given the cast of mediocre cricketers of all hues who have played for England's one day side , I shudder to think why anyone would want to bring race into this. 'Hideous' indeed.
Not immediately obvious, but if you say so ...Huh, was joking? Jeez..
Damn yo, thats way harsh on Bopara. Bopara's problem is that he has been wasted since the home summer vs IND in ODI's by being played at #7 & test @ #6 when he clearly a top order batsmen. Bopara is clearly one of the more talented young batsmen in this country ATM.Bopara remains one of the most hideously poor players ever to grace international cricket since, well, Saj Mahmood? One would reckon England have some sort of quota of cricketers of Asian extraction going on, so why not at least pick a fellow who can impress, ie Mascarenhas?
Those highlighted have been good for most of their careers/so farYeah. I think Ryder is gonna be good but I was just thinking about how many nz batsmen come on the scene, do well in their first few games and then dont quite kick on.
McMillan got a 50 against Aus in his first test innings iirc.
Fleming got 90 odd in one of his first few odis.
Styris got a century and a 50 against the windies in his first test
Vincent got a 100 and a 50 in his first test, batting out of position against Aus
Taylor did well and got a century in his 7th or 8th game iirc
Fulton averaged over 50 odd in his first series against sri Lanka
How scored a 50 in his first or second odi against Sri Lanka
Papps averages over 50 for the few odis he has played.
Hamish Marshall did really well in his first tour. That Pakistan tour where most of the team pulled out.
Sinclair got a double century in his first innings.
and now Ryder has done very well in his first few innings.
This was just off the top of my head so it may not be exactly correct but you get the idea. But they never turn out to be as good as we initially hope for. It must be something with nz batsmen....nothing to lose maybe??....... who knows.
Remix. Children of the Sandstorm - Darude ft. Robert Miles"Children" by Robert Miles at the start right? Great song choice if so. Love that track.
I do hope you were talking about the Tests there...If Bopara and Mustard both play in thr next match, then I'll support the oppostition, deffo.
Well I think it's important to remember that 1) neither of them would have scored much if Shah and Mustard could catch and 2) there's loads of other mediocre players (like Marshall; not like Taylor IMO) who've had the odd decent start to ODI careers despite long mediocre domestic careers.Was looking at highlights again and every boundary that McCullum and Ryder scored was timed and looked outstanding. They definately look the goods. How many times can they produce performances like that though? Will he do a Ross Taylor, Hamish MArshall on us and start well then lose the plot?
It's certainly far from a straightforward question, especially with the lack of Flintoff and Trescothick, but I'll have a go...Rich - if you don't mind me asking, if you had got to choose the squad - with the injury status as is, what XI would you have had lining up for the first ODI?
Interesting Rich, but what I deem a perennial problem for the England ODI side is the genuine lack of a wicket taker and it appears the same with this side. I appreciate we cannot magic one from nowhere, but those middle periods of the game where the batting side milk the bowling for ones and twos and the odd boundary is easily achievable against us. It makes it imperative we strike with the new ball.It's certainly far from a straightforward question, especially with the lack of Flintoff and Trescothick, but I'll have a go...
Cook
Bell
Afzaal
Pietersen
Collingwood
Shah \ Bopara
Read
Swann
Mascarenhas
Broad
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