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Shaun Tait quits cricket

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
And you have Sreesanth.


Nah, Sree would spray his beamers down legside or something. He's not accurate enough. Tait would miss the batsman as well.

Lee's pretty good though, he even gets them to swing (remembering the Trescothick one), and can also beam a player that beams him earlier in the match (Razzaq). And then he can double beam a player (McCullum).
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Nah, Sree would spray his beamers down legside or something. He's not accurate enough. Tait would miss the batsman as well.

Lee's pretty good though, he even gets them to swing (remembering the Trescothick one), and can also beam a player that beams him earlier in the match (Razzaq). And then he can double beam a player (McCullum).
TBF to Sreesanth he very nearly decapitated KP with a vicious, swinging beamer last summer. One of the better (or most potentially lethal) ones I've seen.

EDIT: From YouTube: here we go.
 
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Geez, that beamer was nasty. Not as nasty as Lee's to Trescothick, though. Still, no doubt it was accidental, bowling a beamer at pace is quite a tough thing to do deliberately.
 

howardj

International Coach
I guess it's easy to mock Tait's ticker. However, I think there'll be more of this sort of thing in the future. If I could play Doctor Phil for a moment....

I think, and we had this discussion at work the other day at lunch, younger people today are much softer mentally and mature much later than early generations. Perhaps it's because we leave home much later than our parents did and have children later, and generally take on much less responsibility than was the case in earlier generations. But yeah, there's a general sofness there - and hence I think, consequently, there will more of this sort of thing in the future (guys being devastated about sub par performances).
 

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I guess it's easy to mock Tait's ticker. However, I think there'll be more of this sort of thing in the future. If I could play Doctor Phil for a moment....

I think, and we had this discussion at work the other day at lunch, younger people today are much softer mentally and mature much later than early generations. Perhaps it's because we leave home much later than our parents did and have children later, and generally take on much less responsibility than was the case in earlier generations. But yeah, there's a general sofness there - and hence I think, consequently, there will more of this sort of thing in the future (guys being devastated about sub par performances).
With all due respect, we still don't know what's really eating Tait on this one.

Plus, arguably of course, it's a bit much to assume people today are soft. People are just more apt to show their emotions and couple that with greater understanding of psychological disorders and I think we're just lifting the scab off what's always been there. Now, instead of developing a drinking or gambling problem, taking it out on the wife (who was your property by marriage, of course) or getting into brawls, people express and are more likely to be mentally healthy adults.

Sure the previous generations were 'harder'. But I know barely any of them who aren't also totally messed up as 40/50/60 year olds and have a near complete inability to communicate or express themselves. Instead, people like my screwed-up parents play mind games and try to manipulate other family members. Is it any wonder the elderly suicide rate has risen alarmingly in the last 10 years?
 

burr

State Vice-Captain
How is quitting cricket soft? The easy thing to do would be to stick around, continue to eek out sub-par performances in an environment that provides you with a cosy little safety net. The hard thing to do would be to walk away, into a world where you're not sure of yourself or your next move and where everyone is going to speculate and ask invasive questions, because you know despite that, it's what you need to do.
 

Flem274*

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I guess it's easy to mock Tait's ticker. However, I think there'll be more of this sort of thing in the future. If I could play Doctor Phil for a moment....

I think, and we had this discussion at work the other day at lunch, younger people today are much softer mentally and mature much later than early generations. Perhaps it's because we leave home much later than our parents did and have children later, and generally take on much less responsibility than was the case in earlier generations. But yeah, there's a general sofness there - and hence I think, consequently, there will more of this sort of thing in the future (guys being devastated about sub par performances).
You needed the "Back in my day Sonny Jim.." for effect. TBH its a good theory but I suspect its wrong. Look how sportsmen and women are hitting the international scene so much earlier these days. Sharma has made his test debut against Australia and done respectably well at 19 and Tim Southee is about to debut against England in 20/20 at 19. Two pretty tough characters to get to or near the top so quickly IMO.
 

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Added to that, Tait's Dad is a copper I used to work with. No 'easy runs' in that household, let me tell you.
 

howardj

International Coach
With all due respect, we still don't know what's really eating Tait on this one.

Plus, arguably of course, it's a bit much to assume people today are soft. People are just more apt to show their emotions and couple that with greater understanding of psychological disorders and I think we're just lifting the scab off what's always been there. Now, instead of developing a drinking or gambling problem, taking it out on the wife (who was your property by marriage, of course) or getting into brawls, people express and are more likely to be mentally healthy adults.

Sure the previous generations were 'harder'. But I know barely any of them who aren't also totally messed up as 40/50/60 year olds and have a near complete inability to communicate or express themselves. Instead, people like my screwed-up parents play mind games and try to manipulate other family members. Is it any wonder the elderly suicide rate has risen alarmingly in the last 10 years?
That's a great post - well made points.

EDIT: It never works out when I try to put myself in Doctor Phil's shoes.
 
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masterblaster

International Captain
With all due respect, we still don't know what's really eating Tait on this one.

Plus, arguably of course, it's a bit much to assume people today are soft. People are just more apt to show their emotions and couple that with greater understanding of psychological disorders and I think we're just lifting the scab off what's always been there. Now, instead of developing a drinking or gambling problem, taking it out on the wife (who was your property by marriage, of course) or getting into brawls, people express and are more likely to be mentally healthy adults.

Sure the previous generations were 'harder'. But I know barely any of them who aren't also totally messed up as 40/50/60 year olds and have a near complete inability to communicate or express themselves. Instead, people like my screwed-up parents play mind games and try to manipulate other family members. Is it any wonder the elderly suicide rate has risen alarmingly in the last 10 years?
Very well said, agreed entirely. Many people who seemed 'harder' in their youth are really crumbling throughout their middle age years. Expressing yourself is what makes things easier and bottling things up like many men in the past did actually does more harm than good. As I've mentioned in my previous post, I don't think Tait's soft at all. All power to him if he wants to recharge his batteries both physically and mentally and then come back better than ever.
 

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I think it's just a case of me perhaps needing to be on the other end of the couch - getting advice from Dr Phil, rather than dispensing it!
Sorry you'll have to wait your turn; not enough room on the couch for the both of us!
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
I was fully aware of that beamer to be fair, since I remember the uproar when he did it. Don't reckon Sree could do that again if he tried though, let alone to the same player who did it to him... in the same match.

EDIT: Just like to clarify that I don't believe Lee intentionally bowls his beamers either. Just it was an amazing coincidence that he beamed Razzaq after Razzaq beamed him earlier in the match.
 
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Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Now Harbhajan intentionally bowling a beamer, that I can see.

It'd probably be hit for six, but he'd still try to intimidate with it :p
 

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