***Official*** India in Australia

[JBH001]

I feel desperately sorry for Tait - here he is bowling great early in the season, they pick him as 12th man (no drama there per se) then keep him around the team doing no meaningful bowling for 6 weeks before getting called up. No lessons learned here from the Bichel/ Kaspa/ Lee mistakes in the past. He should miss out for Hogg in Adelaide, but I frankly have no more idea as to whether he's a test prospect now than I did four days ago, as his chances of producing his best at that level is severely limited by his being picked with no work under his belt.

I will take your word for it. I have not seen much of Tait, apart from a few good ODI performances, but I was very unimpressed by his test bowling in this match. I really cant blame Ponting for not bowling him much because he never looked like he had much to offer. Also, the good ODI bowling I saw from him was against NZ, iirc, the Lankans belted him around a bit when he played against them. So, thus far, I think him over-rated and over-hyped. But perhaps he will prove me wrong.

The problem in this test was, as almost everyone here has said through the match, the 1st innings batting. Aside from that it was a line ball test match. India bowled very well in the first innings and full credit to them. The real difference was, however, that Tendulkar and Dravid selected their shots much better than our upper and middle orders did. I thought India's 1st innings bowling shaded ours, but it was not like it was many times better. Rather, their batsmen responded better to the challenge better than ours did. It proved a crucial difference.

Yeah. It really came down to two crucial partnerships in two different innings. The first between Sachin and Dravid in the first innings, and the second between Laxman and Singh in the second. The first set the game up for India, and the second decided it. Just sensible and considered batting in both partnerships.

The media are big time lookign for controversy after the game. I heard Ponting on ABC being asked about whether, after Sydney, he considered the Indian celebrations today OTT. He handled it perfectly - said no way - people don't realise how much hard work it is to win a test, and they can celebrate any way they want. He said thee was nothing wrong with the celebration, but that "No doubt someone int he media will try and make something out of it" Then he finished with a cracker "I always say that winners have a celebrations, losers usually have a meeting. I'm off to a meeting". Was very well handled.

Saw his post match interview too, and thought his comments graceful and well considered. Top stuff from him.

 

[The Sean]

Has anyone ever seen aussie_26 and bond21 in the same room?

Just a thought.

 

[Johnners]

And yet again trolls from both sides dire up a thread that should be celebrating another example of fantastic Test cricket.

FFS.

Haha yep,

Seriously, would be fully in favour of a select 2/3 toodling off to play in the traffic (you know who you are...)

aussie_26, you're argument lost all credibility (not that there was really any credit to start with) and fell to pieces as soon as you asked PEWS if he actually watched cricket.

 

[aussie_26]

Serious? The T20 victory was nothing at all, this was a magnificent victory and the celebrations were completely justified.

The side has just beaten the best side in the world in their own backyard, the first side to do so in quite a few years and ending a winning streak that's gone on for two years. Not to mention everyone wrote off India before the match and you blame them for celebrating? Not to mention it's a Test match win, which quite frankly means a hell of a lot and I'm glad it means a lot to the players as well.

20/20 is more about entertainment its much less prestigious than the other 2 forms of the game and is really all down to luck

just look at australias performance over all versions of the game over the last 10 years, they are miles ahead of india , not even close

 

[burr]

That's been said a bit in this thread, but there actually wasn't much if any first class cricket played in Australia between the first test against India and now. I don't actually think Tait missed any first class cricket due to twelfth man duties this summer. Correct me if I'm wrong here.

I very much doubt he did; aus has a policy of letting bowlers play when they can (12th men wise)

 

[Jono]

So proud of India today. Possibly the greatest test victory I've witnessed from them considering what occured in Sydney.

Absolutely brilliant. .

 

[Burgey]

That's been said a bit in this thread, but there actually wasn't much if any first class cricket played in Australia between the first test against India and now. I don't actually think Tait missed any first class cricket due to twelfth man duties this summer. Correct me if I'm wrong here.

May have missed one or two, cbf looking it up - certainly missed a heap of domestic 50 overs stuff.

More importantly, thank god Federer won - saved me $5000 - nearly fainted in the 5th set!

 

[Prince EWS]

iff he was that good than india would be a better side, they would of made the world cup

tboth lee and clark are better players then him

Yeah, because if you're a good test bowler, your team automatically does well in the World Cup. Regardless of how the rest of the attack goes, regardless of how the batting performs, regardless of whether you can actually translate your test bowling into ODI success... if you're a good test bowler, your team wins the World Cup. That's why six or seven teams win the World Cup every year.

 

[duffer]

Quite right.

The stupidity in these articles is the bollocking given to the bowlers. I had to go through the card for CW purposes - Australia's bowlers took 20 wickets here on a flatter-than-expected track for 624 runs. It's not a pizzling, especially given the attack proved unsuited for the pitch on offer.

I feel desperately sorry for Tait - here he is bowling great early in the season, they pick him as 12th man (no drama there per se) then keep him around the team doing no meaningful bowling for 6 weeks before getting called up. No lessons learned here from the Bichel/ Kaspa/ Lee mistakes in the past. He should miss out for Hogg in Adelaide, but I frankly have no more idea as to whether he's a test prospect now than I did four days ago, as his chances of producing his best at that level is severely limited by his being picked with no work under his belt.

Frustrates the crap out of me - they manage Ponting, Gilly, Hayden et al by giving them time off so they're at their best - ffs, send a bowler to get some work at fc level and use Gary Pratt as 12th man!

The problem in this test was, as almost everyone here has said through the match, the 1st innings batting. Aside from that it was a line ball test match. India bowled very well in the first innings and full credit to them. The real difference was, however, that Tendulkar and Dravid selected their shots much better than our upper and middle orders did. I thought India's 1st innings bowling shaded ours, but it was not like it was many times better. Rather, their batsmen responded better to the challenge than ours did. It proved a crucial difference.

The media are big time lookign for controversy after the game. I heard Ponting on ABC being asked about whether, after Sydney, he considered the Indian celebrations today OTT. He handled it perfectly - said no way - people don't realise how much hard work it is to win a test, and they can celebrate any way they want. He said there was nothing wrong with the celebration, but that "No doubt someone in the media will try and make something out of it" Then he finished with a cracker "I always say that winners have a celebrations, losers usually have a meeting. I'm off to a meeting". Was very well handled.

Top quality post mate. Very impressed by how Rick handled himself today.

 

[Matt79]

20/20 is more about entertainment its much less prestigious than the other 2 forms of the game and is really all down to luck

just look at australias performance over all versions of the game over the last 10 years, they are miles ahead of india , not even close

Apart from when we lost in India in 2001, when they drew the series here in 03/04 and when they won the 20/20 Championship after we were knocked out. Other than that you're entirely right.

 

[burr]

So proud of India today. Possibly the greatest test victory I've witnessed from them considering what occured in Sydney.

Absolutely brilliant. .

Better than 2001? Unless you didn't witness that

 

[Johnners]

That's been said a bit in this thread, but there actually wasn't much if any first class cricket played in Australia between the first test against India and now. I don't actually think Tait missed any first class cricket due to twelfth man duties this summer. Correct me if I'm wrong here.

I'm pretty sure you're correct there.

 

[Burgey]

Apart from when we lost in India in 2001, when they drew the series here in 03/04 and when they won the 20/20 Championship after we were knocked out. Other than that you're entirely right.

Yeah, because if you're a good test bowler, your team automatically does well in the World Cup. Regardless of how the rest of the attack goes, regardless of how the batting performs, regardless of whether you can actually translate your test bowling into ODI success... if you're a good test bowler, your team wins the World Cup. That's why six or seven teams win the World Cup every year.

Haven't you guys seen the "Don't feed the Troll" sign?

 

[sideshowtim]

Quite right.

The stupidity in these articles is the bollocking given to the bowlers. I had to go through the card for CW purposes - Australia's bowlers took 20 wickets here on a flatter-than-expected track for 624 runs. It's not a pizzling, especially given the attack proved unsuited for the pitch on offer.

I feel desperately sorry for Tait - here he is bowling great early in the season, they pick him as 12th man (no drama there per se) then keep him around the team doing no meaningful bowling for 6 weeks before getting called up. No lessons learned here from the Bichel/ Kaspa/ Lee mistakes in the past. He should miss out for Hogg in Adelaide, but I frankly have no more idea as to whether he's a test prospect now than I did four days ago, as his chances of producing his best at that level is severely limited by his being picked with no work under his belt.

Frustrates the crap out of me - they manage Ponting, Gilly, Hayden et al by giving them time off so they're at their best - ffs, send a bowler to get some work at fc level and use Gary Pratt as 12th man!

The problem in this test was, as almost everyone here has said through the match, the 1st innings batting. Aside from that it was a line ball test match. India bowled very well in the first innings and full credit to them. The real difference was, however, that Tendulkar and Dravid selected their shots much better than our upper and middle orders did. I thought India's 1st innings bowling shaded ours, but it was not like it was many times better. Rather, their batsmen responded better to the challenge than ours did. It proved a crucial difference.

The media are big time lookign for controversy after the game. I heard Ponting on ABC being asked about whether, after Sydney, he considered the Indian celebrations today OTT. He handled it perfectly - said no way - people don't realise how much hard work it is to win a test, and they can celebrate any way they want. He said there was nothing wrong with the celebration, but that "No doubt someone in the media will try and make something out of it" Then he finished with a cracker "I always say that winners have a celebrations, losers usually have a meeting. I'm off to a meeting". Was very well handled.

Great post. And yeah, Ponting deserves a big pat on the back for how he's handled the questions after this Test.

 

[Johnners]

Yeah, because if you're a good test bowler, your team automatically does well in the World Cup. Regardless of how the rest of the attack goes, regardless of how the batting performs, regardless of whether you can actually translate your test bowling into ODI success... if you're a good test bowler, your team wins the World Cup. That's why six or seven teams win the World Cup every year.

Yep totally agree

 

[Craig]

I'd answer you but that avatar is hideous. You poor soul.

On suicide watch itbt.

 

[aussie_26]

Yeah, because if you're a good test bowler, your team automatically does well in the World Cup. Regardless of how the rest of the attack goes, regardless of how the batting performs, regardless of whether you can actually translate your test bowling into ODI success... if you're a good test bowler, your team wins the World Cup. That's why six or seven teams win the World Cup every year.

you didnt even make the WC , remeber you lost to bangladash

im just looking at some sites with all there rankings and they all have australia along way ahead of india

 

[weldone]

Yeah, because if you're a good test bowler, your team automatically does well in the World Cup. Regardless of how the rest of the attack goes, regardless of how the batting performs, regardless of whether you can actually translate your test bowling into ODI success... if you're a good test bowler, your team wins the World Cup. That's why six or seven teams win the World Cup every year.

Hillarious stuff!.....Good posting......I loved your wordings.

 

[aussie_26]

Teams
Matches
Points
Rating
1
Australia
28
4005
143
2
Sri Lanka
32
3490
109
3
India
33
3591
109
4

 

[Matt79]

Haven't you guys seen the "Don't feed the Troll" sign?

Where's the "Ban the Troll" signs?