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***Official*** India in Australia

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
what do you want me to do get stuck into australi after 1 bad game ? ofcousre i am proud of this great side
That doesn't mean you have to be outrageously biased. Australia are the best team in the world, there's no denying that at all. That doesn't mean all their players are a class above all the players in all the other teams around the world, though. Saying you are proud of the team is good; saying that Bracken is better than Zaheer is biased bordering on absolutely trollish.

I'm Australian myself; I'm proud of the team, and I support them. But that doesn't mean I can't see things objectively.
 

Laurrz

International Debutant
Zaheer Khan has taken his game to a new level as well, though, and they've had lots of success since his return to the team, including winning a test and competiting very well in South Africa, and winning a series in England. Zaheer was a huge part of both of those, especially the latter.

If Bracken was as good as you're suggesting, he'd be in the test team ahead of Mitchell Johnson who, with all due respect to the guy as I'm actually a fan, isn't fit to lace Zaheer Khan's bootlaces as a bowler at this stage of his career.
agreed with ur comment that there are only two bowlers in Aus better than Zaheer in the longer form

as for Johnson.. yea i recn he'll come good ..hopefully sooner rather than later... has a lot to work on
 

Bracken

U19 Debutant
Good four days of test cricket.

The difference came down to the bowling attacks. All four of the Indian frontline bowlers bowled extremely well, while Australia only had two of the four firing. Tait was obviously disappointing, and Johnson, while getting a few scalps, hasn't looked particularly threatening all summer except for a few small bursts. He just seems to be missing something for mine.

Ponting missed a couple of tricks in this match. There was a good case for opening the bowling with Lee and Tait on the first morning, or if not Tait then Clark should be given the new ball. Giving it to Johnson, given that he hasn't really moved the ball that much in the air, was a bit of a waste. I can understand why they gave the Lee-Johnson combination a try, but it has to go down as a mistake for mine. A few slips catches that were shelled didn't help, of course.

I really hope that the Indian bowlers keep on with their development. I know that it will be tough for the selectors to find a middle order batsman to drop, but Pathan needs to be groomed as an all-rounder at six, letting them play five bowlers. Having three quicks swinging the ball around, as well as the luxury of having Kumble and Harbhajan to bowl when the wickets starts breaking up, will make for a formidable attack.

RP Singh looks the goods to me. Being able to step up and lead the attack at his age and experience, as well as having the controlled swing (at a lively pace) that he has shown in the past few games, is quite a feat. Sharma is probably a few years away from being a real weapon, but he is certainly a good prospect. He had a great spell today- hopefully he'll learn from what he accomplished and develop into a world class quick.

I think that the big lesson in this game for the Australians is the balance between pace and swing. The Australian setup has been a bit obsessed over the past few years with loading up the attack with guys that can send them down at 150kmh, rather than giving precedence to developing guys who have the ability to move the ball around with a bit of control. Someone with the natural ability to swing the ball at a decent clip, like a Ben Hilfenhaus, needs to be developed and fast tracked in much the same way that Michael Clarke was.

I assume that Hayden and Hogg will come in for Rogers and Tait in Adelaide, and I would hope that Harbhajan comes in for Jaffer. With Sehwag at the other end, Dravid wouldn't be under the same pressure to get the scoreboard moving along if he was moved back up to open.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
you can laugh all you want ive been following cricket for about 10 years and i have all ready seen my side win 3 world cups, ive had more than my fair share of success
Yeah, Duffer follows an inferior team, so his opinions are clearly inferior as well. You know much better because the team you follow wins more often. How silly of us all!
 

aussie_26

School Boy/Girl Captain
Zaheer Khan has taken his game to a new level as well, though, and they've had lots of success since his return to the team, including winning a test and competiting very well in South Africa, and winning a series in England. Zaheer was a huge part of both of those, especially the latter.

If Bracken was as good as you're suggesting, he'd be in the test team ahead of Mitchell Johnson who, with all due respect to the guy as I'm actually a fan, isn't fit to lace Zaheer Khan's bootlaces as a bowler at this stage of his career.
go and watch the some world cup replays he just hasnt had his chance in test cricket
 

aussie_26

School Boy/Girl Captain
Yeah, Duffer follows an inferior team, so his opinions are clearly inferior as well. You know much better because the team you follow wins more often. How silly of us all!
no but it just shoes how the indian supporters are getting carried away with this win, its just 1 victory not a series or a world cup
 

duffer

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
you can laugh all you want ive been following cricket for about 10 years and i have all ready seen my side win 3 world cups, ive had more than my fair share of success
:laugh:

Man, you haven't won jack. Yeah the Aussies have won three world cups but it's not like you did anything to contribute to that. Just because you support a dominant team doesn't mean you know better.

As for overreacting, you've got no idea what you're missing out on. Supporting a ridiculously dominant team must be some hollow ****. It's the bad times which make wins like this feel so much better than you can possibly experience.
 

JBH001

International Regular
Got to say, I find the "I hate Ponting" thing very poor. Fully expect the "its the attitude/lack of humility/resemblance to George Bush" line to get trotted out here, and I don't really care - apart from anything else I don't think he's cricket's version of Jack the Ripper in the first place.

I just think its poor watching a game with the view of hoping that someone fails, rather than celebrating someone else doing well. I'd at least be less annoyed if people were honest about how big a part jealously/sour grapes played in their dislike of him.
Hates a strong word. Too strong. I just dislike him (and Clarke). And no, its not for those reasons (which seem rather odd in the first place).

And, you must have me confused with some one else. I certainly dont watch him bat with the hope that he fails (I am not that mean spirited) unless of course (reasonably enough) I am supporting a team he is playing against. And I do think, as I have said, that he is a very great bat (IMO the third best bat Australia has produced).

Maybe you have me mixed up with someone else?

However, he certainly did make a very graceful post match speech. So, maybe I was wrong about him.
 

Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
Just a warning to the Indian team: Australia do not like to lose. You'd know why having watched the Ashes recently. But, I may overestimate how guys like Clark, Johnson and Jaques react to this. I know Langer, McGrath and Warne would be wanting blood.
 

duffer

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Just a warning to the Indian team: Australia do not like to lose. You'd know why having watched the Ashes recently. But, I may overestimate how guys like Clark, Johnson and Jaques react to this. I know Langer, McGrath and Warne would be wanting blood.
Similarly an India team with confidence is a different gravy altogether. Will be a cracker, Adelaide conditions should complement a lot of our players too.
 

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