Australia didn't play the Sydney test in the true spirit of the game?

[JBH001]

Kumble must have been under tremendous pressure having been present for most of the latter part of the last day on the field and with all that went on there and later on. It was clearly something he would have avoided saying a day later. However one felt about it, it was unfortunate that he used that phrase and I am sure Kumble would be wishing he had not used it.

Its not easy even for someone who is as level headed as Anil Kumble to maintain equanimity all the time. Maybe someone else like Sachin should have been asked to address the press conference at that time. Its never easy to remain cool in the face of a media willing you to provocation.

Yeah, I thought that too. Given a day to cool down he would probably have been far more moderate. Although, in the light of the days play, imo, his remarks are understandable.

However, fwiw, I do believe that he should have shook hands with the umpires. Granted they were incompetent and a disproportionate share of decisions went against India. Even so, not doing so can only be seen as petulant and more than a little childish.

In any case, as I said above, I hope all this 'hoo-ha' does not distract the team from Perth.

 

[JBH001]

This is a wonderful post.

Really? Thought it a bit ott, myself.

 

[howardj]

My view is that anybody who thinks guys (including many guys in the Australia and Indian teams) never appeal if they think it's not out, is living in la la land. There are guys in every cricket team who appeal when they think it may be given out, as distinct from when they think it may be out. To say otherwise is to live in la la land, pretending that cricketers are pure.

It doesn't make you a monster or the worst guy in the world if you appeal when you know it's not out, but it does make you a bad sport. In my view, it is just plain wrong and something I can proudly say I do not do. I have no beef with guys who do not walk - but to appeal when you know it is not out is a low, base act.

Now, it just so happens that Australia benefitted from this with the Dravid dismissal yesterday, however to suggest they are lone rangers in this regard is again to live in la la land.

 

[Evermind]

I'm tired of the McGrath - Sarwan example already.

It's not about taking sledges the same way you're dishing them out. It's about dragging your wife who's battling for her life into a petty, personal argument.

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There is no doubt that Sarwan didn't actually mean anything malicious towards Jane - it's really pretty naive to think so. He was throwing it back at McGrath, and could've used "mother" instead of "wife" for all he cared. Unless you think McGrath really believes Sarwan and Lara are a homosexual couple who indulge in oral *** all the time.

It was a stupid thing for McGrath to say, and a stupid reply from Sarwan. It was like "your mom" and then "your mom too". Except Sarwan took it and gave it back, and McGrath couldn't, and decided to be a hypocrite and a sore loser.

 

[gunner]

to be honest,

sportsmanship is non existent in todays world,
so theres no point banging on about it,
unless the umpires give them out,
they aint gonna walk and people just have to get on with their lives and forget about it

 

[Matt79]

Already posted my thoughts on this question:
http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1441376&postcount=6570

 

[aussie_26]

Not excuses, reasons. You just don't seem to understand how irrelevant population is.

kthnxbye

how can the population be irrelevant, the greter the population is the greater the talent pool is to choose from, have you ever wondered why the USA dominate the olympic games? its because out of all the developed nations they have the largest population by a long way

I agree with some of what you say, australia do have some things going in there favour but as i said the fact that india have a population thats lets say about 50 times the size of australia and there number 1 sport is cricket means that they have the greater adavantige.cricket is not discouraged over in india by all and if india cant set up a proper system than that is there problem

To most australians cricket is just something that they watch between the football seasons, over in india they live for the game

 

[aussie_26]

I can't believe Ponting and team complained about Singh. What a bunch of whingers. The worst sledgers in the game go crying to the authorities when a bowler (who happens to have Ponting rattled) gives some back. Australia were lucky to win that test yesterday with the balance of decisions going our way. And what is with Clarke standing his ground after being caught at first slip?!?

A very disappointed cricket fan.

what is so hard to understand the diffrence between sledging and being racist? or is it just becuase the colour of Singhs skin isnt white that its ocaky for singh to make a racist comment.

 

[vic_orthdox]

if india cant set up a proper system than that is there problem

In a way, it is "their problem", however being a developing country with a population of that size, it takes time. And now we see academies sprouting up in India, and with time that infrastructure can be set up to create a pathway similar to what we have in Australia. If that can be done successfully, then India will become stronger.

Its a case of time, because at the moment the resources aren't there for the majority of the population to be playing organised cricket.

 

[duffer]

how can the population be irrelevant, the greter the population is the greater the talent pool is to choose from, have you ever wondered why the USA dominate the olympic games? its because out of all the developed nations they have the largest population by a long way

I agree with some of what you say, australia do have some things going in there favour but as i said the fact that india have a population thats lets say about 50 times the size of australia and there number 1 sport is cricket means that they have the greater adavantige.cricket is not discouraged over in india by all and if india cant set up a proper system than that is there problem

To most australians cricket is just something that they watch between the football seasons, over in india they live for the game

Yep they also have 50 times as many barriers to success people have in Australia. Population is only relevant when all other other things are considered relatively equal, untill then it doesn't make a huge deal of difference.

 

[aussie_26]

Yep they also have 50 times as many barriers to success people have in Australia. Population is only relevant when all other other things are considered relatively equal, untill then it doesn't make a huge deal of difference.

so if india had a populatioin of 20 million they would be no worse of ? and lets just say they still had all the other issues

 

[duffer]

so if india had a populatioin of 20 million they would be no worse of ? and lets just say they still had all the other issues

If India had a population 20 million you think they wouldn't have the resources to take better care of their people? Their large population is by the large the biggest reason for a lot of their problems right now.

 

[aussie_26]

In a way, it is "their problem", however being a developing country with a population of that size, it takes time. And now we see academies sprouting up in India, and with time that infrastructure can be set up to create a pathway similar to what we have in Australia. If that can be done successfully, then India will become stronger.

Its a case of time, because at the moment the resources aren't there for the majority of the population to be playing organised cricket.

I agree with all of that

 

[vic_orthdox]

how can the population be irrelevant, the greter the population is the greater the talent pool is to choose from

By your logic, India should be roughly 250 times better at cricket than NZ.

 

[aussie_26]

If India had a population 20 million you think they wouldn't have the resources to take better care of their people? Their large population is by the large the biggest reason for a lot of their problems right now.

true, but you are saying that the population is not a factor at all, i acknowlede that resources is an issue, i beleive both resources and population are a factor

 

[aussie_26]

By your logic, India should be roughly 250 times better at cricket than NZ.

well for a start they are better IMO at test cricket

Im not saying that resources dont play apart im saying that both the population and resources play a part

 

[duffer]

true, but you are saying that the population is not a factor at all, i acknowlede that resources is an issue, i beleive both resources and population are a factor

I said it's a more relevant factor if all other things are more or less equal, or at least in the same ballpark. But by itself it isn't really as big a thing as people make it out to be. It's more I cringe when I hear stuff like "omg India has like a billion people and they still **** at sportz! lolzzz!!!!"

Not to worry though, there's an econmic boom going in India right now and a lot more people are seeing wealth. After opening up the economy in 1991 we're seeing a huge improvement in living standards and infrastructure I'm sure we'll see more elite Indian sportsmen make it to the top. Watch out then

 

[aussie_26]

I said it's a more relevant factor if all other things are more or less equal, or at least in the same ballpark. But by itself it isn't really as big a thing as people make it out to be. It's more I cringe when I hear stuff like "omg India has like a billion people and they still **** at sportz! lolzzz!!!!"

Not to worry though, there's an econmic boom going in India right now and a lot more people are seeing wealth. After opening up the economy in 1991 we're seeing a huge improvement in living standards and infrastructure I'm sure we'll see more elite Indian sportsmen make it to the top. Watch out then

will have to wait and see , i look forward to the challenge

 

[Smudge]

By your logic, India should be roughly 250 times better at cricket than NZ.

Good thing we have such creative groundsmen.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Ponting did himself no favours with his reaction to a LBW appeal being turned down just before tea. The delivery from Hogg pitched two feet wide of off stump and the batsman was about 10 feet from the stumps when the ball struck. Ponting reacted as though the non-giving out was the greatest act of treachery since Nelson discovered that Lady Hamilton wasn't a virgin.