silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
No. It's almost impossible for the vast majority to afford proper equipment, or have available the appropriate grounds to play in.
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Australia didn't play the Sydney test in the true spirit of the game?
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vic_orthdox
Global Moderator
Yes, but there is infrastructure in place to make sure that if you don't make it, you can still make a career for yourself. There isn't that same infrastructure in India, hence the pursuit of a professional sporting career is much more risky.
duffer
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Any population "advantage" is more than offset by poverty, lack of resources and a cultural fear of deviating from the tried and tested road to success ie education.
Sanz
Hall of Fame Member
Kumble, Please stop it and be little more gracious in defeat, You sound like a sore loser. It was a tough loss and I can understand that but Australia earned it in the end. They are not responsible for umpiring mistakes, they were on the receiving end as well.
This is not the first time umpires have made some mistakes. It is clearly overstated here. India's famous win in Kolkata 2001 was really poor and heavily biased umpring and Steve Waugh didn't say a single word. Every one claims close catches, so let's not single out Ponting and his team.
As for the spirit of the game and all that..Please stop it. Your team mate was guilty of racial abuse and other team mates were supporting him. No sport is bigger than humanity. You need to learn and teach your team mates humanity before you talk about Spirit of the game.
Clearly have lost a lot of respect for him.
This is not the first time umpires have made some mistakes. It is clearly overstated here. India's famous win in Kolkata 2001 was really poor and heavily biased umpring and Steve Waugh didn't say a single word. Every one claims close catches, so let's not single out Ponting and his team.
As for the spirit of the game and all that..Please stop it. Your team mate was guilty of racial abuse and other team mates were supporting him. No sport is bigger than humanity. You need to learn and teach your team mates humanity before you talk about Spirit of the game.
Clearly have lost a lot of respect for him.
I agree with what you are saying but i think at the end of the day you will find that india hold the advantige, very few young australians want to grow up to be cricketers as i have said they mostly want to play footy and than you have the population factor
the larger you population the more talent you have to choose from, look if cricket was australian number 1 sport like it is in india I would agree that australia but becaue its not I beleive that india have the advantige
duffer
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
That's too simplistic. Social,economical and cultural factors are more relevant than merely population.
no its not because at the enof the day due to indias population they will have a larger pool of talent to select from even after you have taken into consideration those factors
china has a larger population and they always seem to do well at the olympic games, surley thats due to there population size
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
No, its due to their government taking hundreds of kids at age seven and putting them into sports schools with the sole purpose of making them into little olympic winning robots.
vic_orthdox
Global Moderator
This really is going around in circles now.
you guys seem to full of alot of excuses, perhaps that is just the diffrence between australia and india.Australia arent interested in excuses they just get on with the job
duffer
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Not excuses, reasons. You just don't seem to understand how irrelevant population is.
kthnxbye
Evermind
International Debutant
To some extent, this is quite true.
Slow Love™
International Captain
Nah, looks like it was just you.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Great response when I posted a legitimate reason about china. That's bordering on child abuse, and not an 'excuse' as you so eloquently put it.
Evermind
International Debutant
I dunno. Perhaps aspects of Indian society would do much better with a more authoritarian hand guiding their destiny.Great response when I posted a legitimate reason about china. That's bordering on child abuse, and not an 'excuse' as you so eloquently put it.
Then again, it'd be interesting to see how many of these athletes from China suffer from repeated nervous breakdowns in their thirties.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
They don't care about you after you've either not made it, or are done with your career.
Regarding the 'catch', I think Ponting wants to have a sytem where the fielder can be trusted. He admitted he grassed Dravid in the first innings when his team mates were already celebrating, and then when Pup said he caught Ganguly he was more than happy to take his word for it.
Probably not going to happen after this match/series due to the example set by Ponting himself (referring to Dhoni appeal, Clarke was not the only controversial one). Kumble at the begining of this series had agreed to that, but would take a sucker will ever fall for it again (certainly dont want any Indian captain agreeing to it).
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
It's actually quite amusing to see Indians whining about umpires considering what touring teams had to put up with in the past in India, particularly in the days of Bedi, Chandra etc. There was one occasion when a sub close in fielder took about 7 catches and only two of them were genuine dismissals.