Perm
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Because he's not that good, dear Victorian.
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pup11
International Coach
Frankly i was not a big David Hussey fan in the past but now i rate him, in the last 2 to 3 seasons he has been simply awesome in every ****ing from of the game both in Australian domestic cricket and county cricket and even Hussey's biggest critic would agree with that but ffs him not even being in contention for selection after doing so ****ing well is something that really pisses me off!
mikeW
International Vice-Captain
He'd be in every other countries team in the world. Please leave your smartass responses out of it.
Perm
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Debateable. He wouldn't make a full strength England, South Africa or India XI. And just becaues he would make a few other countries teams doesn't mean he should be selected for Australia. He's just not good enough to break through and push any of the established players out of the side.
if we're talking test cricket then yes definately... he would make England or Saffers.. India maybe..
i mean, 9000+ runs at 56 in FC cricket
not sure his OD stats but u just had to watch his knock against Lee Bracken Clark
Perm
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
One knock doesn't make a player.if we're talking test cricket then yes definately... he would make England or Saffers.. India maybe..
i mean, 9000+ runs at 56 in FC cricket
At this stage in time I couldn't see him displacing any of Vaughan/Pietersen/Collingwood/Bell in the English middle order, nor Dravid/Tendulkar/Ganguly/Laxman. It could be argued that he would make the South African side, but not a full strength middle order.
Also, his FC average is boosted significantly by scoring easy runs in County Cricket.
TheLad
School Boy/Girl Captain
Thats the point.
David Hussey has been good in Australia too but his Aus domestic form has not had the consistency of his UK form. The selectors will be looking for him to back up last seasons form. I think there looking and some good runs through this season will see him close.
Nate
You'll Never Walk Alone
Nah, reckon he would.
pup11
International Coach
Well then don't the English players too score easy runs in County cricket, Zac just check his record in the last two or three Pura cup seasons before you make such dire statements.
Fiery
Banned
Some good news for NZ fans:
Pace bowler O'Brien to return to NZ
Saturday December 8, 3:57 PM
AAP
New Zealand seam bowler Iain O'Brien will return home from his side's short tour of Australia, New Zealand Cricket said in a statement.
O'Brien will be available for his Wellington provincial side for their match against Central Districts on Monday.
No reason was given for O'Brien's return to New Zealand and he will now miss the Twenty20 international against Australia and the three-match Chappell-Hadlee one-day series.
O'Brien, who played in the two-Test series loss to South Africa, conceded 52 runs in just four overs against a Cricket Australia Chairman's XI on Friday.
New Zealand lost the match by seven runs.
Pace bowler O'Brien to return to NZ
Saturday December 8, 3:57 PM
AAP
New Zealand seam bowler Iain O'Brien will return home from his side's short tour of Australia, New Zealand Cricket said in a statement.
O'Brien will be available for his Wellington provincial side for their match against Central Districts on Monday.
No reason was given for O'Brien's return to New Zealand and he will now miss the Twenty20 international against Australia and the three-match Chappell-Hadlee one-day series.
O'Brien, who played in the two-Test series loss to South Africa, conceded 52 runs in just four overs against a Cricket Australia Chairman's XI on Friday.
New Zealand lost the match by seven runs.
Perm
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Maybe if he had started as a resident in any of those countries. At the present point in time he would have to displace somebody from the middle order of those respective countries, which I couldn't see him doing.
Perm
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Please do not call me Zac, I signed up to the forum with this user name for a reason, and I'd appreciate if you called me Perm.
Ah yes, but that is their domestic competition in which they are expected to perform. They don't go to another country and inflate their averages by cashing in against inferior bowling, but I'm sure if they went and played in the West Indies domestic competition then they would score big runs.
Also, it's not a dire statement. I'm fully aware of how David Hussey's career has gone to date, and the guy is a quality batsmen. You can't deny that an avearge of 65.06 for Nottinghamshire has inflated his average though, and isn't a fair reflection of Hussey's credentials compared to other Australian batsmen. I know you've been a cheerleader of his for a while, and it's baffling why you say he should be in the team because realistically, who would he replace? Ricky Ponting? One of the best batsmen in the last decade Michael Hussey? The guy averages almost 90 IIRC. Michael Clarke? He's scored three centuries at an average of over 100 since his return to the Test side.
I have checked his record, virtually everytime you mention his name and how he should be playing international cricket, and I'm aware that he had a very productive 2006/07 season for Victoria. He's playing some good cricket at the moment too, and his record is reflective of that. However, I think it's pretty safe to say he's behind Brad Hodge, Simon Katich and maybe a couple of others for an Australian middle order berth for a reason. There is a reason for this, but appear not to want to see it.
Smudge
Hall of Fame Member
Looks that way to me. Is that the first time the Chairman's XI has ended a player's international career? How shameful.
i just used that one example because its one that comes to mind and was recent... im sure he's made many more defining knocks
he'd play for Bopara definately in England
in India, fair nuff..
for Saffer he'd prolly battle with Amla.. and his stats are once again far superior
i would like to know whats his average in just aussie domestic.. dont know how to check that but id suggest its still really good
County isn't all easy.. conditions are different.. there is reverse swing coz of the diff ball.. and there are some quality bowlers too..
sportychic33
State 12th Man
Does that mean that career 12th man Michael Mason might be closer to getting a run? Probably not, but I think he deserves a spot ahead of Chris Martin. If not I think he should be sent back to CD who desperately need someone of that experience back in the team.
mikeW
International Vice-Captain
So is Mike's, his average in Australian domestic cricket was fairly average when he was selected for Australia.
Perm
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I'm sure he has, as have most other batsmen of his quality. They can score runs against quality opposition too, and usually on a more regular basis than Hussey, who is quite inconsistent.
I was assuming that all teams would be at full strength, hence Ravi Bopara wouldn't be in the English side. However I do feel Hussey is better than Bopara. Hashim Amla is in strong form at the moment, and looks to have redeveloped his technique, so I doubt Hussey would slot into the South African side in place of him. Amla also has a very good average, once you take away his Test record.
He averages 44.24 for Victoria, which is good, but not comparable to the likes of Simon Katich and Brad Hodge, the two batsmen he appears to be in competition with for a Test spot (aside from the incumbents).
County cricket is an easy way to score runs, just look at the records of some of the overseas players who have had extended careers. Almost all of them will have improved their career average by cashing in against low quality opposition. This is particularly true for David Hussey, who plays in Division Two. There were twenty five players who averaged over 50 during the last county season, and that is for Division Two alone.
Perm
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
You've picked out one point of my argument, presumably you agree with the rest of it?
It is true that most Australian batsmen boost their average by scoring runs in County Cricket. Katich, Hodge, Michael Hussey, David Hussey, Lehmann, the list goes on. Nobody is denying that Michael Hussey has done the same thing, but how is it relevant to the discussion at hand? You're failing to grasp the concept that David Hussey isn't good enough to displace any of the current Australian middle order batsmen, hence he shouldn't be in the Test team until one of the incumbents doesn't deserve to be.