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*** Official *** Pakistan in India

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Its amazing how many people have a poor opinion of Jaffer. Let me make a submission here.

  • Wasim Jaffer is the best opener between India and Pakistan and the [layer with the best technique amongst all the openers in both the countries.
  • Jaffer has the best backfoot play of all openers and, in fact is one of the most technically correct batsmen in the subcontinent when playing off the backfoot. Not being able to play off the backfoot with a straight bat, except occasionally in defence, is the bane of most young batsmen in the sub continent.
  • Jaffer plays each and every stroke in the game and plays them all in copy book style. His cricket is simultaneoulsy free of risk and pleasing to the eye which is not something many are able to combine.

This is not to make Jaffer sound as a bigger player than he is but all that I have said is true. Jaffer also has great patience and can go on to play very long innings and has done so in the past.

His drawbacks are a sudden loss in concentration at times. A tendency to play with a casualness reminicient of Laxman which can let him down when the ball does something special - in other words he can get carried away by his own flow of stroking the ball.

He needs someone to keep talking to him in the middle so that he keeps at it otherwise after reaching a decent score he may get out and not even look as if he is upset about it a la Sadgopan Ramesh.

If Jaffer could be more ambitious and hungry for really big stuff he can surprise everyone. He has almost everything that it takes.

But he is unglamourous. The Indian public thinks of him as someone who is there because we have no one better and sometimes he gives the impression that he doesn't mind that or is not willing to show everyone how wrong they are.

Thats all thats wrong with him.

The wicket today was placid but his stroke play was still incandescent. I dont remember when I last saw such brilliant strokeplay from an Indian batsman without a single risky stroke. Fabulous batting on a good wicket is still fabulous batting. A batsman is not to be faulted for it. There were other 'great' batsmen playing today on the same wicket and he managed to outshine all of them. What more do you want him to do?
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Just for information, since Jaffer's return to the Indian side in March 2006, he has scored
  • 1407 runs
  • at 48.5 each
  • with a highest score of 212 and
  • four other centuries and
  • six fifties.

All in 16 tests.

During this period
  • no Indian batsman has scored as many runs.
  • He has the two highest innings scored by any Indian batsman, 212 and 192 no.
  • no one comes close to his five test hundreds (Dravid and Sachin are next with 2 each),
  • his batting average is the highest of all those in the Indian side except Dravid whose lead of 0.4 runs per innings might evaporate tomorrow morning !!

Yet we doubt his place in the side.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Not to forget the fact he is an opener and its a lot harder for an opener to average 48.6 as compared to a middle order batsman.
 

FRAZ

International Captain
Not to forget the fact he is an opener and its a lot harder for an opener to average 48.6 as compared to a middle order batsman.
Not to forget that he has scored against the crapiest bowling attack (injured Shoaib) in the world which is backed by some retardedly blind wicket keeper and some circus clowns who wanna juggle the ball rather than catching the damn thing. Bunch of idiots / Shoaib Akhtar n Afridi.
By the way why in the name of hell they didn't let Afridi play the tests .....
Well I am disappointed with the Indians that they didn't humiliate this crapy team as they should have !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

jeevan

International 12th Man
Its amazing how many people have a poor opinion of Jaffer. Let me make a submission here.

  • Wasim Jaffer is the best opener between India and Pakistan and the [layer with the best technique amongst all the openers in both the countries.
  • Jaffer has the best backfoot play of all openers and, in fact is one of the most technically correct batsmen in the subcontinent when playing off the backfoot. Not being able to play off the backfoot with a straight bat, except occasionally in defence, is the bane of most young batsmen in the sub continent.
  • Jaffer plays each and every stroke in the game and plays them all in copy book style. His cricket is simultaneoulsy free of risk and pleasing to the eye which is not something many are able to combine.

This is not to make Jaffer sound as a bigger player than he is but all that I have said is true. Jaffer also has great patience and can go on to play very long innings and has done so in the past.

His drawbacks are a sudden loss in concentration at times. A tendency to play with a casualness reminicient of Laxman which can let him down when the ball does something special - in other words he can get carried away by his own flow of stroking the ball.

He needs someone to keep talking to him in the middle so that he keeps at it otherwise after reaching a decent score he may get out and not even look as if he is upset about it a la Sadgopan Ramesh.

If Jaffer could be more ambitious and hungry for really big stuff he can surprise everyone. He has almost everything that it takes.

But he is unglamourous. The Indian public thinks of him as someone who is there because we have no one better and sometimes he gives the impression that he doesn't mind that or is not willing to show everyone how wrong they are.

Thats all thats wrong with him.

The wicket today was placid but his stroke play was still incandescent. I dont remember when I last saw such brilliant strokeplay from an Indian batsman without a single risky stroke. Fabulous batting on a good wicket is still fabulous batting. A batsman is not to be faulted for it. There were other 'great' batsmen playing today on the same wicket and he managed to outshine all of them. What more do you want him to do?
Sometimes in the same over. Had the pleasure of watching the Tanvir over where Jaffer got four different boundaries. Will gladly take that kind of ordinary player!!

BTW he was quite good in the 1st test, 2nd innings too. Perished to the only risky stroke that he made (that I recall from watching most of), it was a terrific catch by Salman Butt and not mistiming or edging the stroke that did him in.
 

jeevan

International 12th Man
Not to forget that he has scored against the crapiest bowling attack (injured Shoaib) in the world which is backed by some retardedly blind wicket keeper and some circus clowns who wanna juggle the ball rather than catching the damn thing. Bunch of idiots / Shoaib Akhtar n Afridi.
By the way why in the name of hell they didn't let Afridi play the tests .....
Well I am disappointed with the Indians that they didn't humiliate this crapy team as they should have !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jaffer offered almost nothing in the form of a chance to Akmal and the other fielders.

Jaffer has scored against: a full strength SA in SA, a full strength England in India, full strength WI in WI, and against BD (ie all the teams he's encountered). Full strength Pakistan is not decidedly better than full strength SA or England.

Even when Shoaib was fit in the first test, Jaffer did quite OK actually. Getting tiring pointing all this obvious stuff out.
 

Salamuddin

International Debutant
I will reserve judgement on Jaffer until after the Australia series. If he can have a decent outing over here, then I will be convinced by him.
 

Evermind

International Debutant
Prediction for tomorow - Jaffer to be the first(?) Indian batsman to hit a triple. :unsure:
Anyways, Jaffer for 400. :happy:
This a rare instance where before a player has even reached 200, a triple hundred seems very much possible.
8-) :blink:

Trust the Indian fans to predict magical scores when the guy hasn't even reached 200.

4-0 vs Australia this december, anyone? Surely with the godlike Jaffer in control, what's to fear?

Jaffer to fall around 250.
 

jeevan

International 12th Man
India tried very hard but just couldn't manage to lose this one. Oh well - two more coming up - plenty of opportunities to take it easy, throw wickets away and wilt under pressure.
8-) :blink:

Trust the Indian fans to predict magical scores when the guy hasn't even reached 200.

4-0 vs Australia this december, anyone? Surely with the godlike Jaffer in control, what's to fear?

Jaffer to fall around 250.
Evermind seems to have a pattern of India-baiting with snide comments - that "godlike" was cheap, especially considering Jaffer's personality and religion.

Populates my ignore list, FYI for others.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Great double century - it has been great to watch. Let's go for a triple. :) I'd be much happier if the top Indian scorer was someone other than Sehwag.
 

FRAZ

International Captain
Jaffer offered almost nothing in the form of a chance to Akmal and the other fielders.

Jaffer has scored against: a full strength SA in SA, a full strength England in India, full strength WI in WI, and against BD (ie all the teams he's encountered). Full strength Pakistan is not decidedly better than full strength SA or England.

Even when Shoaib was fit in the first test, Jaffer did quite OK actually. Getting tiring pointing all this obvious stuff out.
I am not even watching the game tbh !!
Hate the crackheads who run PCB tbh !!
 

jeevan

International 12th Man
Well record stands , Jaffer chases one outside off stump and edges to Akmal (who catches it).

Younis, Akhtar congratulate him, thumbs up for the sportsmanship on display.
 

haroon510

International 12th Man
i think jaffer is rated too high right now.. he made a double century against three crappy and mediocre bowlers and one ill and unfit.. and now the guy is already a legend...

i consider his 53 runs in the second innings of the first much more valuable and better than this one... i will rate him this (as most people are rating him in cricinfo) high once he makes this kind of score against bowling attack such as gul, asif, shoaib ( all fit) or against Aus bowling or against SA.
 

TheLad

School Boy/Girl Captain
Sami's average has gone above 50

Why do they return to this guy. When I first saw him I thought this guy looks promising, pace mixed with aggression looks pretty raw but seems to have talent, but that was years ago and that’s the way he looks, has no idea about defensive bowling and his line is nowhere. Its time to go with others, permanently.

Sami has had enough chances.
 

Rajeev

U19 12th Man
i think jaffer is rated too high right now.. he made a double century against three crappy and mediocre bowlers and one ill and unfit.. and now the guy is already a legend...

i consider his 53 runs in the second innings of the first much more valuable and better than this one... i will rate him this (as most people are rating him in cricinfo) high once he makes this kind of score against bowling attack such as gul, asif, shoaib ( all fit) or against Aus bowling or against SA.
Your comments will also be rated in the same stature, sit back and watch some cricket :cool:
 

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