All Time Test XI

[Shaggy Alfresco]

Sehwag
Hayden
Dhoni
Afridi
Symonds
Watson
Prior
Warne
Kumble
Laker
Murali

Scotton
Ulyett
Shrewsbury (c)
Read
Jackson
Steel
Barnes
Peate
Lilley (wk)
Lohmann
Briggs

Game, set, and match.

 

[silentstriker]

Scotton
Ulyett
Shrewsbury (c)
Read
Jackson
Steel
Barnes
Peate
Lilley (wk)
Lohmann
Briggs

Game, set, and match.

1. Bannerman
2. Thomson
3. Horan
4. DW Gregory
5. Cooper
6. Midwinter
7. EJ Gregory
8. Blackham
9. Garrett
10. Kendall
11. Hodges

 

[JerseyGuy]

Jack Hobbs
Len Hutton
Don Bradman
Viv Richards
Garry Sobers
+Andy Flower
*Imran Khan
Richard Hadlee
Wasim Akram
Malcom Marshall/Bill O'Reilly
Muttiah Muralitharan

A fine team I think with 5 frontline bowlers,batting till # 9 & choice of playing Marshall & O'Reilly when suited according to conditions.

All Time 2nd XI:

Herbert Sutcliffe
Sunil Gavaskar
Greg Chappell
Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara
Keith Miller
+Adam Gilchrist
Shane Warne
Joel Garner
Allan Donald
Glenn McGrath

Bhupinder, create a vote with both of your lists and add Lillie and Ponting to it. My list would be a combination of players from both of them

Jack Hobbs
Sunil Gavaskar
Don Bradman
Viv Richards
Sachin Tendulkar
*Imran Khan
+Adam Gilchrist
Shane Warne
Glenn McGrath
Malcom Marshall
Muttiah Muralitharan
12th Man: Ponting

 

[nightprowler10]

Its different every time I post it:

Hobbs
Gavaskar
Bradman
Lara
Sobers
Imran*
Gilchrist+
Akram
Lillee
Marshall
Muralitharan

12th man: Tendulkar

 

[Shaggy Alfresco]

1. Bannerman
2. Thomson
3. Horan
4. DW Gregory
5. Cooper
6. Midwinter
7. EJ Gregory
8. Blackham
9. Garrett
10. Kendall
11. Hodges

Dick Barlow
Dick Spooner
Dick Wescott
Dick Lilley (wk)
Kevin Pietersen (c)
Dick Richardson
Dick Howarth
Dick Fuller
Dick Pougher
Dick Motz
Dick Pollard

 

[nightprowler10]

Dick Barlow
Dick Spooner
Dick Wescott
Dick Lilley (wk)
Kevin Pietersen (c)
Dick Richardson
Dick Howarth
Dick Fuller
Dick Pougher
Dick Motz
Dick Pollard

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Dick Barlow
Dick Spooner
Dick Wescott
Dick Lilley (wk)
Kevin Pietersen (c)
Dick Richardson
Dick Howarth
Dick Fuller
Dick Pougher
Dick Motz
Dick Pollard

I lol'd hard.

 

[silentstriker]

Dick Barlow
Dick Spooner
Dick Wescott
Dick Lilley (wk)
Kevin Pietersen (c)
Dick Richardson
Dick Howarth
Dick Fuller
Dick Pougher
Dick Motz
Dick Pollard

Well played.

 

[subshakerz]

Yeah, Gavaskar was also troubled at times; as was Hobbs; and I'm sure too as all great batsmen were and will be. What's important is getting on top more times than not. He's hammered guys like McGrath, Warne, Murali and Wasim, why not those guys?

By 'troubled', I meant be suddenly lost his ability to dominate and was dismissed. That's what happened to Hayden when he faced an in-form and charged up Shoaib, Flintoff or Simon Jones.

I was referring to pace bowlers as Hayden was an opening batsman, so I won't comment on Warne and Murali. He never had the challenge of facing McGrath or Wasim in a test match, how lucky for him.

Gavaskar and Hobbs were troubled at times, but were far superior to Hayden in countering the pacers and keeping their wicket intact.

Hayden is lucky to be in an era where pace bowling stocks are so low. The West Indies of the 80s would have stopped him cold.

 

[anoop4real]

No balance here whatsoever, just the best two openers, best three middle order batsman, best allrounder, best wicketkeeper, best two fast bowlers and best two spinners.

1. Jack Hobbs
2. Sunil Gavaskar
3. Don Bradman
4. Viv Richards
5. Sachin Tendulkar
6. Garry Sobers
7. Alan Knott
8. Shane Warne
9. Malcolm Marshall
10. Dennis Lillee
11. Muttiah Muralitharan

Itz a nice team!!!

 

[Ikki]

By 'troubled', I meant be suddenly lost his ability to dominate and was dismissed. That's what happened to Hayden when he faced an in-form and charged up Shoaib, Flintoff or Simon Jones.

I was referring to pace bowlers as Hayden was an opening batsman, so I won't comment on Warne and Murali. He never had the challenge of facing McGrath or Wasim in a test match, how lucky for him.

Gavaskar and Hobbs were troubled at times, but were far superior to Hayden in countering the pacers and keeping their wicket intact.

Hayden is lucky to be in an era where pace bowling stocks are so low. The West Indies of the 80s would have stopped him cold.

You generalise way too much. Hayden suddenly lost his ability? No, you don't lose your ability like that, you lose you form. Which Hayden has quite evidently regained.

Hayden has played McGrath in FC and played against Wasim when Pakistan toured.

Why wouldn't spinners come into it?

 

[Flem274*]

It pisses me off when people start slinging mud at Hayden. Ok he isn't all time team quality but everyone loves to generalize him as a flat track bully and how he's never succeeded against good bowlers. He's taken on Bond, Pollock, Murali, Harmison at his best, etc etc in the 2005 ashes he ground out a hard fought century on a greentop IIRC. He is one of the best openers of the modern era and would succeed against many great bowlers. he can play defensively, he can counter excellent bowlers and he can succeed on greentops and other unfavourable conditions. This is coming from a bloody kiwi who still winces when he remembers the CH 181* and the CB series hundred. Now all you Hayden bashers stfu!

 

[Ikki]

It pisses me off when people start slinging mud at Hayden. Ok he isn't all time team quality but everyone loves to generalize him as a flat track bully and how he's never succeeded against good bowlers. He's taken on Bond, Pollock, Murali, Harmison at his best, etc etc in the 2005 ashes he ground out a hard fought century on a greentop IIRC. He is one of the best openers of the modern era and would succeed against many great bowlers. he can play defensively, he can counter excellent bowlers and he can succeed on greentops and other unfavourable conditions. This is coming from a bloody kiwi who still winces when he remembers the CH 181* and the CB series hundred. Now all you Hayden bashers stfu!

LOL. Hayden is an all-time great. He might not be a lock in the 1st all-time XI but he isn't far off the rest.

 

[BhupinderSingh]

Bhupinder, create a vote with both of your lists and add Lillie and Ponting to it. My list would be a combination of players from both of them

We do not need a poll here this is a thread where everyone posts their own XI & we're not going to come to a conclusion that who's XI is the best XI.

Greg Chappell>>>Ricky Ponting
And there have been more than 10 fast bowlers better than Dennis Lillee in history of cricket.Imran,Hadlee,Marshall,Wasim,McGrath,Ambrose,Donald,Barnes,Garner,Waqar,Lindwall,Roberts,Davidson,Holding are the ones whom I think were better fast bowlers than Lillee.

 

[BhupinderSingh]

LOL. Hayden is an all-time great. He might not be a lock in the 1st all-time XI but he isn't far off the rest.

Hayden is an alltime great but it won't be easy for him to make even second XI in presence of openers like Hobbs,Hutton,Gavaskar,Sutcliffe,Boycott,Greenidge,B.Richards etc.

 

[pasag]

Hayden is an alltime great but it won't be easy for him to make even second XI in presence of openers like Hobbs,Hutton,Gavaskar,Sutcliffe,Boycott,Greenidge,B.Richards etc.

Agree

Greg Chappell>>>Ricky Ponting

Agree at this stage, but too many >s

And there have been more than 10 fast bowlers better than Dennis Lillee in history of cricket.Imran,Hadlee,Marshall,Wasim,McGrath,Ambrose,Donald,Barnes,Garner,Waqar,Lindwall,Roberts,Davidson,Holding are the ones whom I think were better fast bowlers than Lillee.

Disagree.

 

[Ikki]

Hayden is an alltime great but it won't be easy for him to make even second XI in presence of openers like Hobbs,Hutton,Gavaskar,Sutcliffe,Boycott,Greenidge,B.Richards etc.

In general, I think this would be the shared view. But in my own opinion I've just seen too much nonsensical degrading of Hayden's record, and having been privy to a lot of his innings, that I just don't share the general view. Anyway, I didn't think everyone had to pick the same line-up.

 

[Flem274*]

We do not need a poll here this is a thread where everyone posts their own XI & we're not going to come to a conclusion that who's XI is the best XI.

Greg Chappell>>>Ricky Ponting
And there have been more than 10 fast bowlers better than Dennis Lillee in history of cricket.Imran,Hadlee,Marshall,Wasim,McGrath,Ambrose,Donald,Barnes,Garner,Waqar,Lindwall,Roberts,Davidson,Holding are the ones whom I think were better fast bowlers than Lillee.

I rate Lillee third or fourth. Marshall, Hadlee and possibly McGrath were better. Imran also a maybe. It's very hard to tell.

 

[subshakerz]

I rate Lillee third or fourth. Marshall, Hadlee and possibly McGrath were better. Imran also a maybe. It's very hard to tell.

Very true, they were all complete bowlers in that that they had no apparent weaknesses or deficiencies. I would rate Marshall the first among equals simply for having a great record everywhere.

 

[silentstriker]

I think this thread should be closed as no XI will match the unspeakably awesome one posted by Shaggy Alfresco.