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Turbinator
Cricketer Of The Year
Honestly, it was very stupid of Dravid to dump captaincy in the first place. But, on the other hand, I think too much is being made of Dravid's face/reaction after the win. He might just be a little sleepy 
or tired or w/e (God knows). Let's not jump to conclusions.
Plus doesn't he always have that face on. Even after a test win, he isn't very vocal or doesn't really express himself, and this was a dead rubber.
I didn't see his face after the win, but was it that bad?
or tired or w/e (God knows). Let's not jump to conclusions. Plus doesn't he always have that face on. Even after a test win, he isn't very vocal or doesn't really express himself, and this was a dead rubber.
I didn't see his face after the win, but was it that bad?
Turbinator
Cricketer Of The Year
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Haha I am willing to bet that Dravid is dropped from the Test side due to his ODI form. Would be a new low for Indian cricket tbh.
Turbinator
Cricketer Of The Year
It could be worse. Yuvraj not getting picked for the test team after those 6 sixes.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
No time to read through the thread, but if by any chance their has been call for any heads in the Indian team after this series, personally don't think that should be the case. Australia were just too good in many areas. But if Pakistan manage to inflict more damage then you could start of thinking of changes.
Craig
World Traveller
Look fair enough, I CBF getting into a long winded debate about it. As for the bias bit, you are probably correct as Symonds is from the Gold Coast, and was the article written by the paper and they do have a habit of that, defending the locals a bit. As for the racism bit, I would support the notion of a fine and maybe a warning, that if it happens again then they get suspended from holding a Test or ODI. Whatever happen, I'm sure you'll agree that it was pretty disgusting and not a good day for out great sport.
(Wow this has to be the most calm I've ever been
)
Sanz
Hall of Fame Member
Actually it was bad, I went back and watched the highlights again to see Zaheer and Dravid handhsake, Dravid is standing behind, Zaheer looks happy and exchanges words with almost every one but with Dravid, first He(Zaheer) doesn't notice him (probably coz Dracid is standing back) when then Dravid approaches him, he very casually shakes hand and then moves ahead. Seems Pretty obvious to me that things are not well.Honestly, it was very stupid of Dravid to dump captaincy in the first place. But, on the other hand, I think too much is being made of Dravid's face/reaction after the win. He might just be a little sleepy
Plus doesn't he always have that face on. Even after a test win, he isn't very vocal or doesn't really express himself, and this was a dead rubber.
I didn't see his face after the win, but was it that bad?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je_3ENneYuA&feature=PlayList&p=8EC9F466ACD8BDFC&index=4 (Forward to 7:30 )
Anyways - I am hoping that I am wrong with my assessment.
Sanz
Hall of Fame Member
How much you wanna bet ?
Turbinator
Cricketer Of The Year
What the? That's it
! I thought it would be something much worse 
. Bro that was nothing, we just got to see him for like 2 seconds and he just looked his normal self tbh. Really it's nothing imo. Dravid is like that, you barely ever see him smile or anything. Plus he wasn't playing this game, so he must've been a bit more relaxed and care free.I don't know I could be wrong, but to me everything seems fine.
adharcric
International Coach
Have to agree with Sanz that something looks wrong there. Dravid is a stoic character but he celebrates and certainly smiles when India do well. Either Dravid and Zaheer have issues or we've got a bigger rift on our hands ... let's hope it's the former.What the? That's it
I don't know I could be wrong, but to me everything seems fine.
vic_orthdox
Global Moderator
Reading too much into it. Seriously.
Turbinator
Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah seriously, I just watched the video a couple more times, I don't see anything wrong.
at Symmonds pushing the camera man aside in the end.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
I agree that there should be 0% tolerance for racism or any other issue that affects the sportsmen emotionally. All I am saying is that a lot of these are just allegations and counter allegations at this point, no one can really be sure what is the truth. The best we can do is wait and watch, tbh. If there were racist chants, then others should follow the Mumbai example and get people out.Look fair enough, I CBF getting into a long winded debate about it. As for the bias bit, you are probably correct as Symonds is from the Gold Coast, and was the article written by the paper and they do have a habit of that, defending the locals a bit. As for the racism bit, I would support the notion of a fine and maybe a warning, that if it happens again then they get suspended from holding a Test or ODI. Whatever happen, I'm sure you'll agree that it was pretty disgusting and not a good day for out great sport.
(Wow this has to be the most calm I've ever been
BTW, one of the Aussie newspapers themselves have admitted that their bit about an Aussie cameraman capturing racist chants on his camera was a false report. Wait for more such admissions from both sides in the coming few days.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Symonds continuing to show he is a tool. No surprise.Yeah seriously, I just watched the video a couple more times, I don't see anything wrong.
legend
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Well, if it really was Karma, it should be Chappell who should be in all kinds of trouble, I would say.
And really, I felt at that time that the Chappell controversy was 80% his fault and 20% the guys whom he had a problem with. I never really thought Dravid would have been to blame either way, but if all that is happening to him now is a result of what happened under Chappell (and of course, all this is assumption), the senior players not supporting him should basically be ashamed of themselves.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Well we know Zaheer and Dravid don't get along because Dravid was the one that dropped Zaheer a while back (before he went to England and got better). So there is bad blood, and there has been a history of Zaheer needling Dravid. In the third Test, Dravid said that he didn't enforce the follow on because the fast bowlers are tired, and Zaheer specifically went on TV to deny that he was tired at all. Things like that can really damage a captain's credibility and Zaheer comes off as pretty poor in that regard.
And yes, Dravid is still identified with the Chappell era while Tendulkar and Ganguly hated Chappell and we know that most of the team (Yuvraj, Zaheer, etc) wanted Tendulkar to be the captain instead of Dravid. That type of stuff eats away at you as a captain.
But it's just another day in the Indian dressing room. It wasn't much better with Gavaskar and Kapil Dev in the eighties.
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
Well said.
But we thought, very naively I agree, that we had put those times behind us.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
It hurts because I did think that, seeing the way the big 3 used to play back in the day, this will never happen to 3 guys such as Sourav, Sachin and Rahul. They all seemed nice, decent and intelligent blokes who were above this kind of thing. Real shame. 