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SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Even then, Yuvraj batted like an amateur. Pressure got to him, very disappointing considering some of the pressure knocks he's hit in the past.
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Thats right. I agree Yuvraj should have come before Dravid, even before Pathan for that matter but Dravid just lasted 13 deliveries for his 7 runs. Its not a disaster since he 'wasted' so to say, just six deliveries. Yuvraj lasted just 11 balls for his 6 runs. He was dealt three bouncers, not fiery or snything, first up and he couldnt geta bat to them. He has a problem.

Then look at Dhoni. If we need to chase 10-12 runs per over in the last 7-8 overs it cant be done with a strike rate of 90 or hundred. Dhoni is repeatedly coming at this juncture but not able to get the kind of strike rate that, say, Uthappa manages so often. 150 and above.

Look at every time our bowling has been taken to the cleaners in the death overs and lok at the cameos played by middle to lower order batsmen to achieve that. Where are those cameos from Dhoni.

We need to accept in thatcase that the real big hitting days of Dhoni which will bring us 20 odd run overs (for you need an over or two like that at the death). If thats the case, then we must plan for it. All India is waiting that an explosion is going to come but it doesn't come.

Finally, I agree with Arun Lal that after Tendulkar got out, Ganguly had no business to go back into his shell. In fact with sachin gone, he should have taken it upon himself to elevate the run rate as Sachin was doing till then.

Ganguly for all his runs this season has never given any consideration to the run rate. He was the batsman in form, he had runs under his belt he should have taken charge but no.
 

alternative

Cricket Web Content Updater
You can't just blame it on Ganguly for that situation, he was there to support there. Hadn't he been there we wouldn't even get to this stage. He was trying to play shots, nothing was going his way. He even got out playing a shot its not like he went into a shell. He was still trying.

The downfall for the indian batting was Dravid and Yuvraj, simple as it can get IMO. Dravid never posed any threat throughout the series, he always walks in and plays the same shot and gets out when under pressure. Yuvraj on the other hand was different just couldn't play the bounce today.

At the death of the innings, Bracken and Johnson were just brilliant, so you just can't blame it on ganguly for not picking up the runrate. Had he got his century and then got out i would have probably agreed with you. He wasn't even selfish this time around.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Bracken and Johnson are okay butSymonds going for just 38 in ten overs in India in such a high scoring match tells the story of Indian batting.
 

Nate

You'll Never Walk Alone
Bracken's series is his first poor one that I can remember for ages. Has bowled a lot of turd to be honest.
 

pup11

International Coach
Mate you are being a bit too harsh on Bracks, yeah i agree he hasn't had the best of the series but he has only played 3 games in this series and had one poor game which was his comeback game and in the last 2 games he didn't get the new ball, so taking all that into consideration he has done decently (though agreed he has been below his own very high standards in this series) but he bowled very well in the last two overs which he bowled today and he had decent figures in the last game too.
 

pup11

International Coach
In the last game i would seriously like to see Hilfenhaus play i think he is really an exciting prospect and it would be a shame if he goes back to Australia without even playing a single game on this tour.
 

Shaggy Alfresco

State Captain
I've just been reading the cricinfo article about the Australia - India game.

Article said:
With one game left, a 4-1 lead to Australia and 365 runs to his name, Symonds has achieved his objectives this tour. He describes himself as "pretty thick-skinned", which made him perfect as the side's chief niggler in India.
I had to do a quick double take, there. Surely that was intentional?
 

sideshowtim

Banned
In the last game i would seriously like to see Hilfenhaus play i think he is really an exciting prospect and it would be a shame if he goes back to Australia without even playing a single game on this tour.
Agreed. Gotta give him a game. Give Johnson or Bing a rest for a series well done.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
Bracken's series is his first poor one that I can remember for ages. Has bowled a lot of turd to be honest.
He was okay at the death today, but yeah, he's been totally outshone by Johnson this series, and Clark and Lee have both had excellent performances as well. Not that Bracken's ODI spot is in danger or anything, but he's not been his usual flawless self.
 

skipper

School Boy/Girl Captain
India has been fighting in every match barring the 5th ODI. I think India are living upto the expectations, but not to the hype.
 

adharcric

International Coach
Dravid to be dropped for next game, Sachin to be rested.
Has that been announced or is it mere speculation on your behalf? Hopefully the former. In that case ...

Ganguly, Karthik, Sharma, Yuvraj, Badrinath, Dhoni, Uthappa, Pathan, *, *, *

Not really sure about the bowlers. Sreesanth should be on the verge of being dropped again but maybe one final chance to show that he can learn his lesson?

EDIT: We might need another bowler. :)
 

Cricket Champio

Cricket Spectator
Why was Clarke played as an opener? Surely Ponting, Haddin or Hodge could have done a much better job but no matter a good score was posted nevertheless. I was surprised with Symonds' bowling in saying India didn't attack him as much as Lee and Bracken. I also don't see why Voges hasn't been selected yet over Hodge. The only reason that seems to be keeping him in is fielding ability and the fact that Australia haven't been troubled enough to put up a good score to change the batting lineup.
 

Nate

You'll Never Walk Alone
He was okay at the death today, but yeah, he's been totally outshone by Johnson this series, and Clark and Lee have both had excellent performances as well. Not that Bracken's ODI spot is in danger or anything, but he's not been his usual flawless self.
Didn't find him that great. So many full-tosses, and not good ones either.

Australian One-Day bowling looking so good. Jonners is finding his feet and taking a bag of poles, Clark is looking the goods, Lee and Bracken have two of the best averages of the time and Hilfenhaus can't even get a look-in. Very healthy competition and motivation to succeed.

EDIT: And how insane is Hogg. Love the bloke so much, never doubted him. Approaching 37 IIRC, fielding gun and bowling so, so well in OD matches. With Heal in reserve, Australian OD bowling is looking good in the coming days.
 

Nate

You'll Never Walk Alone
Why was Clarke played as an opener? Surely Ponting, Haddin or Hodge could have done a much better job but no matter a good score was posted nevertheless. I was surprised with Symonds' bowling in saying India didn't attack him as much as Lee and Bracken. I also don't see why Voges hasn't been selected yet over Hodge. The only reason that seems to be keeping him in is fielding ability and the fact that Australia haven't been troubled enough to put up a good score to change the batting lineup.
Has an awesome average opening the batting for Australia in One-Day International Cricket.
 

sideshowtim

Banned
Didn't find him that great. So many full-tosses, and not good ones either.

Australian One-Day bowling looking so good. Jonners is finding his feet and taking a bag of poles, Clark is looking the goods, Lee and Bracken have two of the best averages of the time and Hilfenhaus can't even get a look-in. Very healthy competition and motivation to succeed.

EDIT: And how insane is Hogg. Love the bloke so much, never doubted him. Approaching 37 IIRC, fielding gun and bowling so, so well in OD matches. With Heal in reserve, Australian OD bowling is looking good in the coming days.
Heal?

Hauritz is gonna be the next long term Aussie OD spinner mate.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Has that been announced or is it mere speculation on your behalf? Hopefully the former. In that case ...

Ganguly, Karthik, Sharma, Yuvraj, Badrinath, Dhoni, Uthappa, Pathan, *, *, *

Not really sure about the bowlers. Sreesanth should be on the verge of being dropped again but maybe one final chance to show that he can learn his lesson?

EDIT: We might need another bowler. :)
Just thinking :)
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
Even though Australia has struggled to defend them at times, I still think people are understating the importance of runs on the board, and just how tough it is to chase 300+.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Even though Australia has struggled to defend them at times, I still think people are understating the importance of runs on the board, and just how tough it is to chase 300+.
Spot on.

Once the 318 was on the board it was a tough one anyway. India needed a good start. good consolidation in the middle without let up on run rate and a good finish. Thats some assignement against most sides - against Australia it is something else.....the 400+ chased by SAF notwithstanding.
 

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