Not really .But why Lillee had injury worries when a tour to subcontinent came .
BTW ,he was/is a great/ excellent bowler for me. No matter what others say .
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How good a bowler was Dennis Lillee?
- Thread starter BhupinderSingh
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BTW ,he was/is a great/ excellent bowler for me. No matter what others say .
archie mac
International Coach
Just how many Tests do you think Lillee missed to the SubCon.?Not really .But why Lillee had injury worries when a tour to subcontinent came .
BTW ,he was/is a great/ excellent bowler for me. No matter what others say .
Perm
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Glenn McGrath. Malcolm Marshall. Richard Hadlee.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
I'm not trying, it's just the way it's always been.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Indeed I do. I don't believe just by seeing someone you can measure accurately how much he spins the ball.
If someone claimed they could, I'd find it ridiculous, really.
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
Three days gone and still no reply. Thats 'funny'Just how many Tests do you think Lillee missed to the SubCon.?
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
There's no good reason whatsoever to do one and not the other. It'd be wholly stupid, in fact, to purely watch (especially as this would almost certainly be a highlights package which showed the good things he did only) and not actually look at achievements.
Several others bowled such things too - they may have lacked in the attitude area, but they actually performed better.
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
bond21
Banned
Lillee had the most wickets for a pace bowler until mcgrath took over.
And no...Hadlee was good but hes not top tier.
Achievements? Ok how about highest wicket taker for a fast bowler in test history until mcgrath took the mantle. How about 50% of the most feared opening bowling attack in history?
I have asked many people on Lillee who watched him, they went to the the matches, they saw him bowl all the time, and everyone always says he was the greatest fast bowler of all time.
Whenever someone chooses an all time XI who's the first fast bowler they pick? Lillee.
Heres a closing statement to confirm my argument.
RICHARD HADLEE had 4 words he used to say when he was bowling.
rhythum, off stump, desire and LILLEE
And no...Hadlee was good but hes not top tier.
Achievements? Ok how about highest wicket taker for a fast bowler in test history until mcgrath took the mantle. How about 50% of the most feared opening bowling attack in history?
I have asked many people on Lillee who watched him, they went to the the matches, they saw him bowl all the time, and everyone always says he was the greatest fast bowler of all time.
Whenever someone chooses an all time XI who's the first fast bowler they pick? Lillee.
Heres a closing statement to confirm my argument.
RICHARD HADLEE had 4 words he used to say when he was bowling.
rhythum, off stump, desire and LILLEE
BhupinderSingh
Banned
Richard Hadlee was twice the bowler Dennis Lillee was.
BhupinderSingh
Banned
No,Malcom Marshall is the first bowler most people pick while making their all time XIs.
BhupinderSingh
Banned
Hadlee modeled his bowling on that of Lillee so its a no surprise hearing such words from him.
Swervy
International Captain
you are a joker
Swervy
International Captain
Oh right...so when did you survey the the cricket loving public then?
This is something that gets me...why is it that some people try to validate their own opinion by making up some 'fact' like this..
A lot of people would choose Marshall, and a lot of people would choose Lillee, whilst a lot of others would choose Hadlee and so on
.Yeah i am a coward .I just ran away from a cricket forum. I accepted .
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
I'd not go that far, but I do feel he achieved more in his career. Not to say Lillee could not have done given more opportunity, but the fact is that Hadlee did all Lillee did and more.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
None of which matter. Someone who took 200 wickets less could perfectly possibly be better than him. Nor does the fact that he formed part of (for all of 2 years) one of the most feared two-prongs ever matter.
What matters is consistency of success in a range of different circumstances. There are several bowlers who trump Lillee in this respect.
No, not everyone. More people than not, but many of these people's arguments are easily explained by various reasons for it to be conceivable that they're judging on the wrong matter.
The Sean
Cricketer Of The Year
I'm a big DKL fan myself, but Hadlee, Kapil Dev, Marshall, Imran, Botham, Walsh, Ambrose and Akram off the top of my head had all overtaken Lillee's Test wicket tally before McGrath did.
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