How good a bowler was Dennis Lillee?

[Richard]

Maybe if Johnny Dyson bowled it it would........





sorry

Puns on CW are in italics. That's one of the best ever without doubt tho.

 

[Richard]

The human arm does not spin a cricket ball.

Yes it does - it's a combination of wrist and fingers. The only description which encompasses both of these is arm.

You know what this limit is, then?

Not in revs-per-second, though I'm sure someone could find it out easily enough with modern 1000FPS cameras.

 

[Richard]

Try reading a swing bowler's autobiography.

Such as?

 

[Pup Clarke]

Malcolm Marshall?

 

[Richard]

I don't know -- which makes total sense, given that that wasn't my point. I was not talking only about atmospherics; neither, I presume, were you.

Most of your comment on the matter has been along the lines of that certain atmospheric conditions mean swinging a ball, even one in perfect condition and for a classically trained bowler, is impossible. Something with which I disagree.

Hence, all conditions are conducive to swing.

That phrase may be literally correct, but it is a poor expression of the truth of the matter.

That word means what, exactly?

Able to be broken down to a smallest possible value. Distance, for example, cannot be - you can always have a measurement smaller than the next one. The largest one I've heard of a terametre, the smallest a micrometre (and most, I'd bet, would have heard of no larger than a kilometre and smaller than a millimetre). However, the scale goes further up and down than both.

You've never seen the same ball which swings in one set of conditions fail to do so in another?

No, because no two cricket-balls are exactly the same, nor does the condition of a cricket-ball remain constant.

You feel wrongly.

IYO.

 

[neville cardus]

Such as?

I recall there being something in Simon Hughes's.

 

[neville cardus]

Yes it does - it's a combination of wrist and fingers. The only description which encompasses both of these is arm.

How about "wrist and fingers"? That does, too.

Not in revs-per-second

No, then.

 

[neville cardus]

Most of your comment on the matter has been along the lines of that certain atmospheric conditions mean swinging a ball

So you were being presumptuous.

even one in perfect condition and for a classically trained bowler, is impossible. Something with which I disagree.

Naively.

That phrase may be literally correct, but it is a poor expression of the truth of the matter.

It's far more lucid than the one which you're offering.

Able to be broken down to a smallest possible value.

In future, please inform me before employing newly-formed Richardisms.

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No, because no two cricket-balls are exactly the same

I'd like to think that ball-making technology has gotten to the point where that difference is negligible.

IYO.

Kindly do me the courtesy of typing coherent sentences.

 

[Nate]

Accidently selected mediocre, assume it went into Good. Apologies!

Dead man.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Puns on CW are in italics.

That's one of the best ever without doubt tho.

Agreed.

 

[Richard]

How about "wrist and fingers"? That does, too.

And "arm" encompasses both. Really no point arguing over this.

No, then.

Exactly, and until someone knows it it's really pretty ridiculous to suggest a bowler from the 1930s who never had any form of measurements done on him spun it more than bowlers 60 years later.

 

[Richard]

So you were being presumptuous.

I was making the only presumption open for me to make.

Naively.

Not so, I've seen no evidence to the contrary.

It's far more lucid than the one which you're offering.

I don't think it is, I think it offers many dangers of being interpreted to mean something it doesn't.

I'd like to think that ball-making technology has gotten to the point where that difference is negligible.

And I'm absolutely certain it hasn't and probably never will.

Kindly do me the courtesy of typing coherent sentences.

IYO is a very well-known acronym, standing for "in your opinion".

 

[Richard]

Pray, how is that Rolleyes-worthy? Every single CW pun I've seen has been in italics.

 

[neville cardus]

And "arm" encompasses both. Really no point arguing over this.

I made my point; you argued yours.

Exactly, and until someone knows it it's really pretty ridiculous to suggest a bowler from the 1930s who never had any form of measurements done on him spun it more than bowlers 60 years later.

It's only "ridiculous" if you've zero respect for the observations of those who actually saw him.

 

[neville cardus]

IYO is a very well-known acronym, standing for "in your opinion".

Please write "in your opinion", then. I couldn't care less about how "well-known" that acronym is.

 

[Swervy]

Pray, how is that Rolleyes-worthy? Every single CW pun I've seen has been in italics.

probably because it is just not important

 

[fisher12]

very good bowler but not the greatest for sure.

 

[funnygirl]

To be fair ,for the great bowler . Knowing pakistani umpires ,i can easily say a huge number of decisions might have gone against him .But thats the same case with Aussie umpires as well . They were reluctant to give shouts in favour of the oppositon .So it is both ways . Now this subconintent pitch theory ,Lillee should have played more matches ,the fact that he opted out from subcontinent tour sighting injury have so much resemblance to Warney's injury trouble at the time of an Indian tourney .

 

[neville cardus]

To be fair ,for the great bowler . Knowing pakistani umpires ,i can easily say a huge number of decisions might have gone against him .But thats the same case with Aussie umpires as well . They were reluctant to give shouts in favour of the oppositon .So it is both ways . Now this subconintent pitch theory ,Lillee should have played more matches ,the fact that he opted out from subcontinent tour sighting injury have so much resemblance to Warney's injury trouble at the time of an Indian tourney .

Ah. An insinuated conspiracy. Have you any half-decent reason for suspecting this?

 

[vic_orthdox]

Pray, how is that Rolleyes-worthy? Every single CW pun I've seen has been in italics.

Actually bothering to try and formalise how puns should be used is something worth disdain.