Turbinator
Cricketer Of The Year
Just come on msn so I can give you your avatar you punk.
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R_D
International Debutant
I was quite surprised and impressed by him myself too.
Turbinator
Cricketer Of The Year
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Well, you don't really expect him to say "We can't really win any place away from the subcontinent at a frequency of twice every 20 years."
Turbinator
Cricketer Of The Year
Well things have changed now my friend, things have changed. Remember the msn convo me, you, pratyush, matteh had before this series, and I was made fun at and not taken seriously when I said India would win. Well all I can say is, we'll talk in a few months.
And put on your avatar damnit
.india have definitely suprised everyone....us gettin knocked out of the WC was a fluke...we have proved ourselves since then and all the critics that doubted india b4 this series have got their answer...not only did india beat england in england....but they did it without a coach!!!!!
Turbinator
Cricketer Of The Year
Well said Nishant.
I am not gonna' ruin it for you bro, you're just gonna have to wait and see.
Nah he didn't put on the avatar yet, he's waiting for Pratyush to give the "okay", since he did the bet against him.
I am not gonna' ruin it for you bro, you're just gonna have to wait and see
.yh...kl...looking forward to it now!Well said Nishant.
Nah he didn't put on the avatar yet, he's waiting for Pratyush to give the "okay", since he did the bet against him.
I am not gonna' ruin it for you bro, you're just gonna have to wait and see
Scaly piscine
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Not really India were beaten comfortably by a team that's fairly rubbish (even worse than England).
A full strength England would have at least drawn with India, if other outside factors like the weather, tosses, pitches had been different even this current England side would have got something from the series.
India are still an absolute joke when it comes to big OD games like finals etc. India are still no better than a bunch of other Test sides who can all beat each other. One swallow doesn't make a summer.
Turbinator
Cricketer Of The Year
Dude you and Pup11 should make a sign at the game saying Hello CricketWeb or something like that, a big one, I am sure you'll come on TV.yh...kl...looking forward to it now!
Neil Pickup
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Well, seeing as our problems came from (a) batting indiscipline and (b) wicketkeeping, I don't see how a change of bowling would have sorted that out at all. Sidebottom, Anderson and Tremlett all bowled better than some of the rubbish Harmison has served up for the last year or so, and Jones isn't going to be properly fit again. We missed Flintoff's balance and Hoggard's Hoggardness, but India were by far the better side and deserved the series.
To look for excuses is to escape the point - India have just thrown off the tags of being unable to generate a decent seam attack, to play swinging balls, to leave the subcontinent, and to battle and grit things out when it's tough. England, on the other hand, are presently showing a distinct lack in the testicular department: when it gets a little bit tough we crack like South Africans.
For me, now, India are #2. And you wouldn't believe just how much that sentence hurt to type.
Raghav
International Vice-Captain
yh....probably wud come on t.v....thats decided then.....make a huge sign saying 'hello Cricketweb'...wud be plain amazing if it comes on t.v. Come to think of it, should have done that yesturday at the oval as well....although i did get on t.v!
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. Apart from KP (whose brilliance seems increasingly wasted on us) & Vaughan the story of the series was one of thrown away starts. Prior's form with the bat was just shocking tho. 73 runs @ 14.6 (and that boosted by the * in the final innings of the series) is just not cutting the mustard even without factoring in his pooey keeping.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
I don't know about that. India won in WI 1-0, lost in SA 2-1, and won in England 1-0. That's three wins outside the subcontinent in one year, and three more than what they managed between 1986-2001. But we really still not consistent enough to warrant jumping above England. England are struggling a bit in the last year after having a great 3-4 years. India did OK in the last 3-4 years, and are having a very good 1 year. I think before rankings change, both sides need to prove themselves one way or another.
I would say that if India go into Australia and manage to win even one Test, I would probably put them equal to England. If they draw in Australia, then I would probably say they are #2. Not yet though. We are doing well with our seam attack and in swinging conditions, but I am not convinced that it is a new era and not just a temporary moment in the sun.
Sidebottom, Anderson and Tremmletr all looks like they have a lot of potential. Especially Tremmlet if he can be more consistent in using his height could be a real handful. So even with the first string out, England's attack will just get better IMO. Panesar wasn't very good though, averaging over a hundred against the top order, which must be disappointing especially at the oval where there was turn.
I am not sure how ODI comes into it.Scaly Piscine said:
Agreed, but they've now won a series in WI against a bad team. Won a for the first time in history in South Africa, against a decent if not great side and won a series in England in 20 years. ALl that within 13 months means India are on the right track, though far from where they need to be to say clearly that they are #2.Scaly Piscine said:
Actually, with the development of Malinga and the fact that Murali is still going strong, I would probably nominate SL as a potential #2 side in the short term. If England keep falling away that is.
Right now, for me, it would probably be something like 1) Aus 2) Eng 3) Ind/SL 4) SA 5) Pak 6) NZ 7) WI for me.
viktor
State Vice-Captain
Yeah, we did well here but I would wait till the end of the Aus series before anointing ourselves #2. At the moment, any of Ind, SL, RSA and Eng and may be even Pak can beat any of the others on a given day. Still given the results in the last year or so, 3-4 is probably where we are atm along with SL and SA.
Eng have just enough in the bank to stay #2 but SL for them is going to be crucial.
Eng have just enough in the bank to stay #2 but SL for them is going to be crucial.
Raghav
International Vice-Captain
Eng still a better test side than Ind
Scaly piscine
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Cricinfo giving some very generous marks out of 10 to England's players.
Panesar managed a 5 for his all-round direness, equally ridiculous was Prior getting 3.5... how much worse could he have been?
Panesar managed a 5 for his all-round direness, equally ridiculous was Prior getting 3.5... how much worse could he have been?
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Yes, top order wickets at an average of over 100 and overall average of 50 certainly doesn't deserve a 5.
Panesar with a 3 and Prior with a 1 IMO. On the Indian side, Dravid doesn't deserve a 5.5 either, probably a 2 or 3 really.