***Official*** India in England

[R_D]

Let me take a wild guess here and say you've never played cricket before.

I'm pretty sure that anyone who's a regular bowler in any form of cricket will tell you that it is very possible to bowl a beamer without meaning to.

I agree with that... when you try to bowl faster it sometime does slip out of your hand and looked like that Sreesanth as well but the other 2 no balls he bowled at Collingwood were bit of a worry.
Anyway.. after indian leaves i'm expecting alot of claims of cheating indians et al from english journalist and fans a like.

 

[R_D]

Ban Sreesanth, says Atherton

Don't think i'd take Atherton too seriously.... if that started happening that Brett Lee wouldn't play too many matches. When you're bowling fast bowl can slip out of your hand.

 

[Dasa]

Personally I don't think the beamer was deliberate. I'm undecided on a ban for bowling one...it can happen by accident, so I'm not sure it's fair to ban someone for that.

 

[adharcric]

Someone mentioned Yuvraj Singh on a holiday in the middle- with the Lankans scoring more without the loss of too many wickets, we are now seeing him as a left-arm spinner. This was something they should have tried in the first two matches as well, although that's a closed case now. With three seamers and a spinner likely to make the XI on a flat track, Yuvraj's bowling will be more relevant than his (or any other middle-order batsman's) batting in the team.

Haha, good one.

 

[adharcric]

Personally I don't think the beamer was deliberate. I'm undecided on a ban for bowling one...it can happen by accident, so I'm not sure it's fair to ban someone for that.

Precisely. Sreesanth may or may not have bowled the beamer deliberately but if you watch the replay of his wrist action, it looks like it slipped out IMO. Hell, even the commentator (Hussain?) mentioned that it slipped out. The no-balls are a separate issue but Atherton just looks like a biased commentator if he can be so convinced that Sreesanth bowled a deliberate beamer and should be banned for bowling one beamer. You do realize that umpires can ban bowlers for repeated offenses ...

 

[Pratters]

Atherton:

Whoever was responsible for leaving the sugary sweet has had a swift reminder that Test cricket, especially involving India, is a serious business. It was a puerile prank gone wrong; harmless, silly and unlikely to be repeated — and not very smart, either, since it has alerted everyone to the method used by England to try to induce some extra swing.

 

[adharcric]

I agree with the idea of an automatic penalty, when it's a head-high beamer like that the bowler should be immediately banned from bowling in the match and banned for a further match (something along those lines). Beamers that are borderline are a bit different.

Why? Head-high beamers can be accidental too.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Why? Head-high beamers can be accidental too.

So if it ends up paralysing or killing someone (possibly) by accident it's alright then?

Most chucking is accidental, doesn't mean chuckers should be allowed to do so indefinitely.

 

[Gloucefan]

Why? Head-high beamers can be accidental too.

It did look like it just slipped out of the side of his hand, he couldn't do it that way again if he tried imo.

I get the feeling there are some sour grapes coming from Athers which is a little disappointing.

 

[adharcric]

So if it ends up paralysing or killing someone (possibly) by accident it's alright then?

Yes. There is no reason why you should get such a heavy punishment for accidentally bowling a beamer, even if it severely injures someone.

Most chucking is accidental, doesn't mean chuckers should be allowed to do so indefinitely.

Nope. You may not realize that you chuck but that's the way you bowl and that's the way you intend to bowl.

 

[Gloucefan]

So if it ends up paralysing or killing someone (possibly) by accident it's alright then?

Most chucking is accidental, doesn't mean chuckers should be allowed to do so indefinitely.

That's not a good analogy, just because they don't get an immediate ban it doesn't mean that people who bowl beamers are allowed to do it indefinitely.

 

[Sanz]

Let me take a wild guess here and say you've never played cricket before.

I'm pretty sure that anyone who's a regular bowler in any form of cricket will tell you that it is very possible to bowl a beamer without meaning to.

I have played cricket before infact still play some and I agree that it is possible to bowl the beamer without meaning to, but have you ever thought why most of the beamers in international cricket are bowled when the bowler is frustrated or angry ? And if the the ball slips from hand why does it always aim the head of the batsman ?

I have seen enough beamers in the international cricket to know that almost all of them are deliberate.

 

[Sanz]

No need to guess there ... unless he has only bowled spin or played backyard cricket.

You are talking as if you have played international cricket all your life and just retired after taking 1000 wickets.

I know you worship SreeSanth and its hard for you to swallow his stupid act, but please dont take cheapshots at others to have a go at others who are criticising you GOD for being an ass.

 

[adharcric]

I have played cricket before infact still play some and I agree that it is possible to bowl the beamer without meaning to, but have you ever thought why most of the beamers in international cricket are bowled when the bowler is frustrated or angry ? And if the the ball slips from hand why does it always aim the head of the batsman ?

Because "beamers" at the hips or abdomen are not a big deal for international batsmen. I have seen plenty of "beamers" that are not going towards the head.

 

[adharcric]

You are talking as if you have played international cricket all your life and just retired after taking 1000 wickets.

You don't need to play international cricket and take 1000 wickets to realize that beamers (even those aimed at the head) can be accidental.

I know you worship SreeSanth and its hard for you to swallow his stupid act, but please dont take cheapshots at others to have a go at others who are criticising you GOD for being an ass.

Good job. I have criticized Sreesanth several times over the past week for having a bad attitude and other issues.

 

[Sanz]

Precisely. Sreesanth may or may not have bowled the beamer deliberately but if you watch the replay of his wrist action, it looks like it slipped out IMO. Hell, even the commentator (Hussain?) mentioned that it slipped out. The no-balls are a separate issue but Atherton just looks like a biased commentator if he can be so convinced that Sreesanth bowled a deliberate beamer and should be banned for bowling one beamer. You do realize that umpires can ban bowlers for repeated offenses ...

Artherton may be biased, but not in this case. IMO it is you who is biased and continues to defend SreeSanth. NoBalls are not seperate issue especially if you just ended up bowling a beamer, by accident or otherwise.

 

[Nishan]

Vandort has to be in the Sri Lankan side for the Australia tests.

He will be he is our best available opener without Marvan and Sanath

 

[Sanz]

Because "beamers" at the hips or abdomen are not a big deal for international batsmen. I have seen plenty of "beamers" that are not going towards the head.

If it is at hip/abdomen height, it is not a beamer. Thanks for the cricket lesson though.

 

[Lostman]

I really dont see the fuss about the beamer. If he had sent down another one the umpires would have banned him from the game anyway.
In baseball, batters where only helmets(with no grill!!) and cups, get frequently pegged by pitchers throwing harder and standing at a closer distance to the batter than on a cricket pitch.

 

[adharcric]

Artherton may be biased, but not in this case. IMO it is you who is biased and continues to defend SreeSanth. NoBalls are not seperate issue especially if you just ended up bowling a beamer, by accident or otherwise.

Gloucefan and Nasser Hussain are biased too, huh? The no-balls are a separate issue; they were probably deliberate and I wouldn't mind Sreesanth getting benched in that case.