Which team's alltime XI is best?

[Matt79]

Lillee is still leading the wicket count, although he's bowled a helluva a lot of overs... Obviously the program doesn't consider whether Bradman would have actually been as good against those bowlers or not, which I think he would, but many here doubt...

 

[The Sean]

Ah yeah, I didn't see that DK had taken that many wickets, but he has bowled a lot of balls to get them.

Just saw further kudos for Ponsford and also Headley, to maintain relatively good averages without the benefits of any red ink at all, which certainly helped the guys above them.

Bradman would have been great against anyone, of that I have no doubt.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Cumulative batting and bowling averages. Everyone's averages are worse than their career stats, no doubt reflecting the higher than normal standard of the opposition.

The other thing it shows is that I was wrong to include Gibbs at the expense of Holding - a mistake I've rectified in the teams I'm simming now - leaving Sobers and Richards to do the spinning for the Windies.

Larwood Always rated him but thought his stats would make him pretty much useless.

 

[adharcric]

Matt79, I plan to use VC 4 for this tour as well. Considering it is rather simplistic, do you suggest I use The Cricket Simulator (DOS-based) instead? That appears to be slightly more complex IIRC and also has rain, etc. factored in. Thoughts?

 

[Matt79]

Never heard of it - I'll have a look when I get a chance. Presumably you can get it online?

 

[adharcric]

West Indies in Australia - Brisbane - 1st Test

[CENTER]West Indies 1st Innings[/CENTER]

CG Greenidge      c Gilchrist      b Lillee         	4 (9)
CC Hunte                           b Lillee            29 (37)
IVA Richards                       b McGrath           13 (36)
GA Headley        hit wkt          b Lindwall          25 (63)
BC Lara           c Trumper        b McGrath        	0 (4)
GS Sobers                          b Miller            51 (119)
CL Walcott        c Lindwall       b Miller            34 (52)
MD Marshall       c Chappell       b Miller         	0 (3)
MA Holding        c Trumper        b Warne          	3 (4)
CEL Ambrose       st Gilchrist     b Warne          	8 (20)
J Garner                           not out              1 (7)
Extras		  (w 6 lb 9)		               15
Total             59 overs	                      183 all out

Fall of wickets:
1-7  2-42  3-48  4-48  5-110  6-167  7-167  8-170  9-181  10-183  

Bowling Figures for Australia

                O	M	 R	W
McGrath        13	3	39	2	
Lillee         13	3	37	2	
Lindwall        8	0	41	1	
Miller         13	2	36	3	
Warne          12	4	21	2	

[CENTER]Australia 1st Innings[/CENTER]

VT Trumper                         b Garner            120 (230)
AR Morris         c Walcott        b Garner          	23 (38)
DG Bradman                         b Marshall       	39 (56)
GS Chappell                        b Garner          	36 (62)
RN Harvey         c Lara           b Garner          	45 (72)
KR Miller         c Holding        b Garner          	11 (41)
AC Gilchrist      lbw              b Ambrose       	16 (21)
SK Warne                           not out               4 (20)
RR Lindwall       c Ambrose        b Garner          	 0 (2)
DK Lillee         lbw              b Garner          	 2 (4)
GD McGrath        c Walcott        b Ambrose       	 0 (11)
Extras		  (w6 nb1 b12 lb15)		        34

Total             93 overs	                       330 all out

Fall of wickets:
1-53  2-132  3-219  4-274  5-295  6-321  7-325  8-325  9-327  10-330  

Bowling Figures for West Indies

                   O	 M	 R	W
Marshall          15	 2	54	1	
Ambrose           22	 6	66	2	
Holding           16	 2	65	0	
Garner            28	 6	85	7	
Sobers            11	 2	33	0	

[CENTER]West Indies 2nd Innings[/CENTER]
CG Greenidge      c Gilchrist      b Warne          	48 (78)
CC Hunte          c Gilchrist      b Miller         	26 (74)
IVA Richards      lbw              b Lindwall       	14 (42)
GA Headley        c Lillee         b Warne          	 6 (21)
BC Lara           c Trumper        b Lillee         	52 (118)
GS Sobers         c Miller         b Warne          	43 (108)
CL Walcott        c Gilchrist      b Lindwall       	62 (151)
MD Marshall       lbw              b Miller         	 7 (11)
MA Holding        c Morris         b Lindwall       	30 (78)
CEL Ambrose       lbw              b Lindwall       	 0 (4)
J Garner                           not out               3 (5)
Extras		  (w3 nb1 b2 lb16)		        22

Total             115 overs	                       313 all out

Fall of wickets:
1-80  2-82  3-89  4-108  5-194  6-232  7-239  8-308  9-308  10-313  

Bowling Figures for Australia

                O	M	 R	W
McGrath        28	9	58	0	
Lillee         30	8	84	1	
Lindwall       23	7	79	4	
Miller         15	7	31	2	
Warne          19	6	43	3	

[CENTER]Australia 2nd Innings[/CENTER]
VT Trumper        c Sobers         b Marshall       	 4 (12)
AR Morris         c Greenidge      b Ambrose       	 0 (1)
DG Bradman        c Walcott        b Holding        	37 (65)
GS Chappell       c Richards       b Holding        	10 (20)
RN Harvey                          b Garner          	37 (66)
KR Miller         c Greenidge      b Garner          	 0 (2)
AC Gilchrist                       not out              42 (92)
SK Warne          c Greenidge      b Ambrose       	 6 (7)
RR Lindwall                        b Garner          	 5 (14)
DK Lillee         c Holding        b Ambrose       	 5 (21)
GD McGrath        c Walcott        b Ambrose       	 9 (21)
Extras		  (lb2)		                         2

Total             54 overs	                       157 all out

Fall of wickets:
1-0  2-4  3-32  4-67  5-70  6-109  7-117  8-130  9-143  10-157  

Bowling Figures for West Indies

                   O	M	 R	W
Marshall           7	2	22	1	
Ambrose           15	6	33	4	
Holding            8	2	26	2	
Garner            16	3	58	3	
Sobers             7	1	16	0	

[B]West Indies won by 9 runs[/B]
Man of the match: Joel Garner

 

[pasag]

Wow, awesome start to the series.

 

[Matt79]

Shocking effort in the second innings by the Aussies - great comeback by the Windies bowlers. Garner and Ambrose - just brilliant.

BTW, Trumper the only centurian in the match - told you all. Many times in fact.

The series is off to a flyer.

 

[NUFAN]

LOL at Headley getting out hit wicket! Great start to the series.

 

[The Sean]

Australia collapsing in the second innings when they had only a small target to chase. Some things never change...

Great Test, what a performance from Garner, great support from Ambrose.

And Victor Trumper - well played, my son.

Bring on Perth.

 

[Slifer]

Great start to the series. Same lineup for the WI for 2nd test at Perth and considering that they've only ever lost one test at Perth i would be very surprised if they didnt go 2 up in the series.

 

[nightprowler10]

Awesome start!!

 

[adharcric]

Unchanged lineups for Perth? Aussies?

 

[Matt79]

Morris deserves one more chance. Nil changes to the Aussies IMO.

 

[Shaggy Alfresco]

Australia collapsing in the second innings when they had only a small target to chase. Some things never change...

pfft

England are the Kings of batting collapses. cf. Adelaide 2006

 

[pasag]

Hayden in for Morris imo.

 

[andyc]

Given that you're using VC4 (I think), Hayden should definitely be in there.

 

[adharcric]

Sorry mate, just simmed the second test. You should've spoken earlier.

EDIT: I can re-sim it. Yes?

 

[Ikki]

Unchanged lineups for Perth? Aussies?

- Hayden for Morris
- Ponting for Harvey
- Waugh for Miller

Hayden should have a go. Ponting should have been ahead of Harvey anyway. As good as Miller is, Waugh's batting is more important, IMO, to Miller's bowling.

 

[Ikki]

Sorry mate, just simmed the second test. You should've spoken earlier.

EDIT: I can re-sim it. Yes?

Pretty please .

Damn, I am strangely excited about this.