You know what really grinds my cricketing gears?

[NUFAN]

What a boring discussion

DR Brad and his crappy pictures in the learn to count thread grinds my gears..

 

[short shorts]

Debating team A believes he does not possess necessary skills of a specialist opener.
Debating team B believes that he does possess necessary skills of a specialist opener.

So it becomes subjective.

The subjectiveness lies in debating the skills of the player as opener.

The objectiveness lies in recognising that Walsh being a bowler and Karthik a keeper plays no role in determining their worth if they are chosen purely as batsmen.

See the difference?

Similarly, every one believes that one of the 2 players is playing the game as a keeper. However, there are 2 keepers playing.

Did everyone believe that England played 2 spinners when Pietersen made his test debut ?

 

[pasag]

Listen mate, you wield the power, ban me if you must. Don't expect that to stop me from pointing out how unreasonable your behaviour has been in trying to crucify me for the sort of mistake you yourself have committed on a more extreme and extended scale. Atleast I realised my folly in generalising things soon enough. You, mate, put up a grand show.

I have no intention of banning you, nor do I want to see you banned as a generally good member and poster on cricket, I have not been trying to crucify you and I apologize if it seems that way, my issue here is, without getting into a huge amont of detail, some of the stuff that goes on here (in CC), at times when discussing cricket which are pet hates of mine and I know for a fact that members that frequent other parts of the site give up with CC because of it.

Stuff like the someone will say "Sobers is a great all-rounder" then in the next post someone else will say "You'd have to be an idiot to say Sobers is a great all-rounder", ie they haven't actually called the person an idiot to their face, but they've clearly had a go at them in a round about way which imo, kills the forum atmosphere and sets it back a long way. This isn't me as a moderator as I said before, it's me as a poster and a member here and it has annoyed me for some time. So apologies if it seems like I'm targeting you which is not the case, but it is something that really grinds my gears. Anyways, enough of this.

 

[nightprowler10]

DR Brad and his crappy pictures in the learn to count thread grinds my gears..

What's that got to do with cricket?

 

[nightprowler10]

Haha I have no intention of banning you,

That's because you can't ban him.

But yeah agreed at how dire it is at the way some decent threads turn to **** like that.

 

[NUFAN]

What's that got to do with cricket?

Well I'm on a cricket forum reading it..

 

[Richard]

That's because you can't ban him.

How'd'ya know that?

Richard Twyman has had access to The Bad Big Red Button for some time now.

 

[Pratters]

The subjectiveness lies in debating the skills of the player as opener.

The objectiveness lies in recognising that Walsh being a bowler and Karthik a keeper plays no role in determining their worth if they are chosen purely as batsmen.

1. India is playing 2 keepers - Karthik and Dhoni
2. India is playing Karthik as an opener and Dhoni as a keeper.

Both are right.

Did everyone believe that England played 2 spinners when Pietersen made his test debut ?

Why would people believe that?

 

[Dasa]

Haha geez 'short shorts'...

Anyway, the debate with the whole wicketkeeper thing is that people aren't really bothered that Karthik is a 'keeper/isn't a 'keeper. The whole debate is about whether he's good enough as a specialist batsman, and whether playing him is denying opportunities for other specialist batsman, or whether it's smart to place your hopes on a player for whom batting isn't his number one skill. That's what it looks like to me anyway.

 

[Matt79]

Time to dig this.

People who bitch and whinge about other people's personal opinions regarding cricketers

Witness some of the comments in the "Shane Warne lists his 50 top cricketers..." thread.

IT'S A PERSONAL OPINION! You can disagree with it, but comments like:
"This list is a joke", or "This list is biased rubbish", etc are just dumb in my opinion. I guess people like Shane Warne, with his decades of experience in FC and International cricket in countries all around the world, including captaining FC and international teams and taking 700 test wickets really should extensively workshop their opinions in an online forum before putting them to print!!!

So what if he thinks Harmison was a better bowler than Waqar. The stats don't back him up, but he's probably faced both of them out in the middle, which makes him in one important sense better qualified to comment than about 99% of people who are interested in cricket. So what if he reckons Lee is better than Waugh. Maybe factors other than a straight read out of career stats have influenced him to say that. Maybe no-one else on earth except Brett Lee's mum thinks that. But if Warne wants to put it in print, good luck to him.

Anytime anyone puts out a list, somebodies going to be offended to be not included, or on a more dire level, personally offended that someone that they like isn't included. Witness Sunny Gavaskar's highly uncharacteristic sulk when Bradman left him out of his team. And then someone makes a thread on CW, and then about 10 pages later it turns into a Shane Warne vs. Murali argument. And that sucks. It SUCKS people.

Shape up people!

 

[Richard]

Shame we've put the Saj on hold TBH.

 

[biased indian]

Time to dig this.

People who bitch and whinge about other people's personal opinions regarding cricketers

Witness some of the comments in the "Shane Warne lists his 50 top cricketers..." thread.

IT'S A PERSONAL OPINION! You can disagree with it, but comments like:
"This list is a joke", or "This list is biased rubbish", etc are just dumb in my opinion. I guess people like Shane Warne, with his decades of experience in FC and International cricket in countries all around the world, including captaining FC and international teams and taking 700 test wickets really should extensively workshop their opinions in an online forum before putting them to print!!!

So what if he thinks Harmison was a better bowler than Waqar. The stats don't back him up, but he's probably faced both of them out in the middle, which makes him in one important sense better qualified to comment than about 99% of people who are interested in cricket. So what if he reckons Lee is better than Waugh. Maybe factors other than a straight read out of career stats have influenced him to say that. Maybe no-one else on earth except Brett Lee's mum thinks that. But if Warne wants to put it in print, good luck to him.

Anytime anyone puts out a list, somebodies going to be offended to be not included, or on a more dire level, personally offended that someone that they like isn't included. Witness Sunny Gavaskar's highly uncharacteristic sulk when Bradman left him out of his team. And then someone makes a thread on CW, and then about 10 pages later it turns into a Shane Warne vs. Murali argument. And that sucks. It SUCKS people.

Shape up people!

Shane Warne vs. Murali

one another thread with all the making is already there

 

[The Sean]

Matt, if you'd just come out and say what you actually thought every now and then rather than sugar-coating it for the masses I think we'd all respect you a lot more...

 

[nightprowler10]

Matt, if you'd just come out and say what you actually thought every now and then rather than sugar-coating it for the masses I think we'd all respect you a lot more...

Haha.

Long drawn out posts between two posters that ultimately end up going in circles.

 

[The Sean]

"This is my argument."
"Well I disagree, this is my argument."
"Hmmm...but what if I repeated the very same argument again?"
"Well I'd disagree, and here's MY very same argument again."
"OK, I see what you're saying - BUT, here's my exact same argument yet again!"
"Wow, I did not see that coming. But I have something up my sleeve in rebuttal - it's another repitition of my original argument!"

And so on....

 

[Chubby Rain]

"This is my argument."
"Well I disagree, this is my argument."
"Hmmm...but what if I repeated the very same argument again?"
"Well I'd disagree, and here's MY very same argument again."
"OK, I see what you're saying - BUT, here's my exact same argument yet again!"
"Wow, I did not see that coming. But I have something up my sleeve in rebuttal - it's another repitition of my original argument!"

And so on....

This forum seems to be chock full of such arguments.

 

[Richard]

"This is my argument."
"Well I disagree, this is my argument."
"Hmmm...but what if I repeated the very same argument again?"
"Well I'd disagree, and here's MY very same argument again."
"OK, I see what you're saying - BUT, here's my exact same argument yet again!"
"Wow, I did not see that coming. But I have something up my sleeve in rebuttal - it's another repitition of my original argument!"

And so on....

I disagree

Indeed.

 

[Perm]

Indeed.

Poor form. Who the hell is Smith? You promised us linkage.

 

[Richard]

Not possible to do with a quote in that style I was desiring there TBH but here ya go.

(A hint - it's not sp713)

 

[nightprowler10]

"This is my argument."
"Well I disagree, this is my argument."
"Hmmm...but what if I repeated the very same argument again?"
"Well I'd disagree, and here's MY very same argument again."
"OK, I see what you're saying - BUT, here's my exact same argument yet again!"
"Wow, I did not see that coming. But I have something up my sleeve in rebuttal - it's another repitition of my original argument!"

And so on....

Sad but true.