Jayasuriya V Knight OD Batting

[open365]

Jayasuria is always spoken about on comentary as being this amazing one day batsman who's easily one of the best in the world.

Who do you think is/was the better ODI batsman?

Knight's record

 	Mat  	Inns  	NO  	Runs  	HS  	Ave  	BF  	SR  	100  	50  	4s  	6s  	Ct  	St
Tests 	17 	30 	0 	719 	113 	23.96 	1661 	43.28 	1 	4 	74 	2 	26 	0
ODIs 	100 	100 	10 	3637 	125* 	40.41 	5085 	71.52 	5 	25 	327 	21 	44 	0
FC 	240 	409 	43 	16172 	303* 	44.18 			40 	77 			292 	0
List A 	414 	394 	45 	13478 	151 	38.61 			30 	68 			174 	0
Twenty20 	23 	22 	2 	584 	89 	29.20 	452 	129.20 	0 	5 			9 	0

Jayasuria's record

 	Mat  	Inns  	NO  	Runs  	HS  	Ave  	BF  	SR  	100  	50  	4s  	6s  	Ct  	St
Tests 	107 	182 	14 	6791 	340 	40.42 			14 	30 	885 	57 	78 	0
ODIs 	395 	384 	18 	12063 	189 	32.95 	13317 	90.58 	25 	64 		241 	114 	0
Twenty20 Int. 	2 	2 	1 	92 	51* 	92.00 	53 	173.58 	0 	1 	14 	3 	0 	0
FC 	252 	397 	33 	14295 	340 	39.27 			29 	67 			158 	0
List A 	469 	455 	24 	13897 	189 	32.24 			28 	72 			135 	0
Twenty20 	9 	9 	2 	189 	51* 	27.00 	119 	158.82 	0 	1 			2 	0

 

[PhoenixFire]

Totall different players, I couldn't really compare them.

 

[silentstriker]

If Knight is better than Gilchrist, he is better than Jayasurya.

 

[Bouncer]

Comparing Knight to Santh is Like comparing Andrew Hall to Wasim Akrem.

 

[silentstriker]

Comparing Knight to Santh is Like comparing Andrew Hall to Wasim Akrem.

No, it is not.

 

[short shorts]

If Gilchrist is better than Knight, Jayasuriya is too.

 

[DCC_legend]

Going by Averages, it's Night that's a better player than Jaya.

 

[Sanz]

No, it is not.

Actually it is. Comparing Nick Knight who played 100 ODIs to a guy who played 400 ODIs.

It's like comparing Nathan Bracken with Wasim Akram. Sure Bracken has better average but who really cares.

 

[Sanz]

Going by Averages, it's Night that's a better player than Jaya.

And Bracken is better bowler than Mcgrath, Akram, Waqar etc.

 

[open365]

Interesting stat, Jayasuria's average after his 100th ODI was 19

 

[PhoenixFire]

Interesting stat, Jayasuria's average after his 100th ODI was 19

Knight's was 40 odd.

 

[Xuhaib]

Whats with this sudden Knight fascination, hell I am thinking of creating a thread where I will compare myself with Knight unfortunatley I wont be able to provide any link to my stats for the comparisons.

 

[open365]

Sorry, but i think it raises an interesting point about how we rate players, I don't think the issue is more about how you rate one of the legends of the game with a player that wouldn't normaly be mentioned in the same breath as Knight.

 

[Pup Clarke]

Interesting stat, Jayasuria's average after his 100th ODI was 19

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Pratyush says (through me because he's a bit busy and can't post on forums at present):

Jayasuriya played mainly as a bowler coming low down in the first part of his career. Only after he was asked to open did he truly shine as a batsman. Thus his first 100 matches show an average of just 19.

Statistics opening the batting (which may be a better direct comparison to Knight)

  M    I  NO  Runs    Avg 100  50   0
337  337  15 11424  35.47  25  62  24

 

[Richard]

What's easily forgotten about Jayasuriya is that, for the first 5 years at least of his career, he wasn't really even a batsman, never mind an opening batsman. He was a left-arm spinner who could also bat in the lower-order.

From 1994 or so onwards, however, he became a high-class opening batsman (average of something like 36, SR 90 or something). I've always believed that Jayasuriya > Gilchrist as an opening batsman, though there's probably not really much in it, they have the same vulnerabilities and much the same strengths (if Gilchrist has 1 or 2 more strokes).

Knight, however, was IMO better than both.

EDIT: how on Earth did Hakon (avec Pratyush) post near enough exactly the same thing just seconds before?

 

[Richard]

Whats with this sudden Knight fascination

I mentioned him, and your comment says a lot, I think, about how widely he's underrated by being unknown.

No-one, ever, would say "what's with this sudden Gilchrist\Jayasuriya fascination". And no, that doesn't say anything about their respective abilities, just the misnomers of some cricket fans.

 

[Richard]

FFS, PUBLIC POLLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
z

 

[open365]

?

 

[Richard]

When you post a poll, you have the option of making the answers public - ie, everyone can see who voted what.

And almost invariably, it's far better to do that.