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*Official* English Football Season 2006-07

BoyBrumby

Englishman
I'm fairly sure there's no such thing as "momentum" in football, otherwise all kinds of fouls would be excused with that very reason. Cech had the ball, Jiggs clattered into him, foul on the keeper. End of.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
I'm sure there are more than we might know. I don't think many people saw Vidic or Evra coming, let alone becoming as good as they are now.
Thats true about Vidic & Evra but before they came over they did have big reps especially Vidic, but its not often that a player of Hargreaves quality is ever available we in England took a very long time to recognise it but its obvious & United have been right to pull straps to get him.

My personal ideal addition would be De Rossi, although I can't see it happening. He's fighting for all the big cups and is at the team he grew up playing for.
Decent player form what i've seen i.e (the world cup last year & United's CL matches vs Roma) but i can't see what would have made him a better buy that Hargreaves. Added to the fact that he's Italian & not many of their best players ever decide to come & play in England.

Hargreaves far from a must for me, any quality CM/DM will do and there are probably cheaper options. Need a striker and a winger just as much, I'd say..
Well mate if we are going to retain the premiership & attain any hopes of winning the CL acquiring all 3 players together are of equal importance AFAIC.

Another position i think that may need some back-up is left-back, Heinze obviously has not been as good on the flanks this season & really hasn't been so since he came back after that injury he had last year. He has looked better IMO when he played in the centre this season. Bale has been talked up but other than the word that he is good with his free-kicks i don't know much about his gameplay, thats even though it may be unlikely i think Adriano from Sevilla would be a great signing based on what i've seen of him in the Uefa Cup Final & a few games in La Liga. Also skipper Neville body these days looks to be cracking up with age, thus Micah Richards would also be a good buy.
 
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Loony BoB

International Captain
I'm fairly sure there's no such thing as "momentum" in football, otherwise all kinds of fouls would be excused with that very reason. Cech had the ball, Jiggs clattered into him, foul on the keeper. End of.
No, not "end of" in the overall situation (although on the day, it obviously was, due to the wrong decision being made) - Essien made a tackle on a player with the intention of bringing him down and he had no chance of getting the ball at all. So, penalty. The momentum thing happened after this, so that bit doesn't really matter.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
No, not "end of" in the overall situation (although on the day, it obviously was, due to the wrong decision being made) - Essien made a tackle on a player with the intention of bringing him down and he had no chance of getting the ball at all. So, penalty. The momentum thing happened after this, so that bit doesn't really matter.
Separate issue to the one I was addressing. Jiggs did not score because he fouled the goalkeeper; moreover once the ref had decided to let him have the goalscoring opportunity rather than award a penalty (regardless of any merit or not that the shout might have) he couldn't then go back & retrospectively award a penalty.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Separate issue to the one I was addressing. Jiggs did not score because he fouled the goalkeeper; moreover once the ref had decided to let him have the goalscoring opportunity rather than award a penalty (regardless of any merit or not that the shout might have) he couldn't then go back & retrospectively award a penalty.
The advantage rule is stupid, but then football has always been balanced towards the cheat, the perpetrator etc.

I don't expect the almost neverending advantages you get in union, but still.
 
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R_D

International Debutant
:huh:

If you mean the Jiggs "goal" then it was never fair; he basically pushed Cech over the line. Might've been a goal in the 50s, but not today.
lol i managed to missed the most exciting part of the whole game, only saw what happend on replay. Giggs just seemed to barge Cezch over the line, it looked like the ball crossed the line too. Was free kick given to chelsea or somthing or did the linesman think it didn't cross the line.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
To be honest there was absolutely no way the linesman could tell the ball was over the line or not from the body positioning of Cech.

Looking at it again today (because to be honest I was on my way out at that point so didn't pay enough attention to it live) - I didn't think the challenge was that bad to be honest, and not sure where Bob gets Essien as being 4-5 metres from the ball, certainly not a stone cold penalty in my view and I don't know how much it actually impeded Giggs anyway as he had to stretch for the ball to get contact on it.
 

luffy

International Captain
Does anyone know any good Soccer forums? I'm interested in joining one, so i can learn more about the game.
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
Does anyone know any good Soccer forums? I'm interested in joining one, so i can learn more about the game.
big soccer.com (no space) is alright, has a lot of members and has club-specific forums for several countries. Obviously if you just want a forum about a certain club then there are better sites around (the Café for United, for example).
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
How exactly?

The ball was hidden to pretty much everyone by Giggs and Cech's bodies.
Well Cech would have probably hindered the linesman, but you should still have been able to see the ball from in front of the goal. Not completely sure where the ref was stood so I'm not sure if Giggs would have blocked his view or not.
 

bugssy

Cricketer Of The Year
go the reds tonight guys, not for the club but atleast to fly the countries flag......carn the reds!
 

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