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Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
1. He looks better with lighter hair.
2. He looks better in lighter conditions.
3. I never said he was a glamour - just better than Dunc.
4. This conversation has gone on long enough - it'll start to look pretty suss soon. :p
You do realise that the picture I posted was of Kiran More, not Peter Moores?
 

Poker Boy

State Vice-Captain
Lol at that shot from Powell, good stuff from WI, never expected them to get this much, well played Monty as well.
Not really a surprise they did, with one bowler injured and another bowling crap. Thank god for Monty - and to think there was stories that with Flintoff injured we'd play four seamers. As for the game the Windies don't have a Warne to give us the heebie-geebies, so the only way this will be a result is if we declare say 350 ahead and Harmison suddenly turns the clock back to 2004. But I think this will be like the Pakistan Test on this ground last year - Struass will play safe so we won't have time to bowl Windies out. A draw.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Backing Strauss for a decent score here today, he is looking very watchful around off stump and has played some nice drives.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
You do realise that the picture I posted was of Kiran More, not Peter Moores?
Ahh, right. Makes sense then, given he seemed to look nothing like Moores. :p Was a bit bemused ITBT, but assumed it was just bad lighting and a hair die. Indian logos everywhere should have tipped me off though.

*hangs head in shame*
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Ahh, right. Makes sense then, given he seemed to look nothing like Moores. :p Was a bit bemused ITBT, but assumed it was just bad lighting and a hair die. Indian logos everywhere should have tipped me off though.

*hangs head in shame*
Take a stick to yourself lad :p
 

Poker Boy

State Vice-Captain
It would be funny if Shah got a century here...would Vaughan do a "Nasser"? Probably not but stranger things have happened (Harmison might start resembling a Test bowler again) now THAT would be strange...
 

pasag

RTDAS
Shah gone. Collymore again.

It would be funny if Shah got a century here...would Vaughan do a "Nasser"? Probably not but stranger things have happened (Harmison might start resembling a Test bowler again) now THAT would be strange...
Lol.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
It would be funny if Shah got a century here...would Vaughan do a "Nasser"? Probably not but stranger things have happened (Harmison might start resembling a Test bowler again) now THAT would be strange...
Haha, what poor timing.

I think Shah's failures have basically confirmed that Vaughan will be slotting in at #3 in the 2nd Test match, assuming that his finger has healed properly by then.
 

gettingbetter

State Vice-Captain
Disappointing from Shah. I guess thats what pressure does to someone; in India, no one cared what happened to the hampered England team and he scores a solid 80. Come back to England and he has a chance to redeem himself after two years out of the team.

I don't really have a problem with Vaughan coming back into the team, but it begs certain questions to be asked.

1. Will he be captain?

2. If England want a 5 bowler attack (which they defnetly need) who is going to miss out? Flintoff comes back in, the candidates are Collingwood, Bell and Strauss - 2 have scored 100s and the other is the captain.

In my opinion, Vaughan's has had a good run and has contributed so much to English cricket, but maybe its time to do a Hussain as some one has already mentioned. Though the likelihood of that occuring is not high consideirng his stubborness not to do the same in the ODI arena.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
gettingbetter said:
1. Will he be captain?
If Vaughan plays, he'll definitely be captain.

gettingbetter said:
2. If England want a 5 bowler attack (which they defnetly need) who is going to miss out? Flintoff comes back in, the candidates are Collingwood, Bell and Strauss - 2 have scored 100s and the other is the captain.
IMO, if Flintoff isn'f fit/confident enough to play as part of a four man attack, he shouldn't be playing at all as his batting isn't good enough. He'll play anyway though, in which case I reckon Strauss could get the chop. His captaincy is irrelevant given he won't be captain, as Vaughan will be back.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Flintoff's ankle isn't up to it at the moment, so unless England want to severly weaken their batting by playing 5 specialist bowlers, I suggest the only two changes they make are Vaughan for Shah and Anderson for Hoggard. Vaughan will take up the captaincy.
 

gettingbetter

State Vice-Captain
4 batsman scored 100s and England manged to decalre before using their bowlers. Compunded by the fact that Monty took 6 wickets and England bowled a Lara-less Windies out for 437.

Batting's not the problem Perm.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
4 batsman scored 100s and England manged to decalre before using their bowlers. Compunded by the fact that Monty took 6 wickets and England bowled a Lara-less Windies out for 437.

Batting's not the problem Perm.
Not saying it is, but I doubt England want to go into the game with 5 specialist batsman and Matthew Prior batting at #6. This would be the scenario if you went with 5 specialist bowlers (I don't think Flintoff will make the 2nd Test). Considering that one of those batsman would be Michael Vaughan, who has very little form behind him, it would be a huge risk.
 

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