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***Official*** English Domestic Season 2007
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Anna
International Vice-Captain
Oh f*** off
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
How about the policy of actually watching the players and making their own minds up rather than picking based on numbers?
TBF, Fletcher did that. No one would have picked Tesco and Vaughan based on their FC records at the time they were picked - but he obviously spotted something in them that meant they could make the grade at international level. Same with Harmison and SJ. As for yesterday, at Taunton it was a case of a team used to winning agaimst a team who are not (Somerset have had two bad seasons apart from winning the 2005 20/20). Meanwhile Surrey raise the bar again - how high can it go? and AB proved he could have been our power player in ODIs - only in England could you be picked as an ODI player, score a centuary in your third match - and then get dropped for the ODI team 's next match because of poor FOUR DAY form in between!! Is Benning the answer? I think he'll get a chance now - he also scored a 189* in a C & G match Surrey lost last year (I think that was Gloucs too so he likes them)...PS - Jon Lewis must be GUTTED he missed yesterday's mayhem....
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
Exactly, hence the watching them is of much more relevance than someone looking at numbers and declaring who is superior / inferior...
Langeveldt
Soutie
So what happened to Gazzard? Always thought the guy had talent, and now he's been replaced by another mediocre Kolpak.. WTF, are they paying the new guy in Rands or something?
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
Gazzard is absolutely rubbish. How can you call Kieswetter a "mediocre Kolpax".The guy's 19 ffs.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
And Harmison turned-out so stupendous, didn't he...? And Jones has proven himself conclusively as a Test bowler, hasn't he...?
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
Who thought Harmison was going to turn out "stupendous"?.I'd hardly say he has had a poor test match career.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
A not-so-mediocre Kolpak, and a British schoolboy by the name of Samuel Spurway too...
How on Earth anyone ever got the impression Gazzard was worth picking ahead of Turner is beyond me. One of the worst players to play county cricket as a genuine first-choice of late IMO.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
I would. 7 consecutive sensational games (well, 6 and the Lara-400* game out of 7) and nothing else, apart from the odd good game (almost exclusively down to bad batting rather than good bowling) in another 38, spread over the course of 5 years now, makes, for me, a very, very poor Test career.
Anna
International Vice-Captain
Gazzard completely lost form with the bat last season, so Spurway came in (he would've come in earlier, I reckon, except he had a broken thumb for a while). Anyway, Kieswetter is not mediocre & he is not a Kolpak (his mum is British & he has a British passport)!!!! He is an awesome talent with the bat and has taken a couple of fantastic catches in the matches I've seen him play in.
Gazzard isn't rubbish. He is a very good keeper, just not as good with the bat as the others, although saying that Spurs hasn't been great so far this season...
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Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
Any bowler who has come close to taking 200 test wickets can not be considered to have had a "very,very poor test career" IMO.
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
Nowadays you have to be a good batsmen I'm afraid.Gazzard certainly isn' that.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
I could take 200 Test wickets if you let me play enough games. Number of wickets isn't important, it's things like strike-rate, average and number of good and poor games that count.
In any case, he's only taken 157 against Test-class teams right now.
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
Anna
International Vice-Captain
Kieswetter is not a Kolpak!!!!!! It's weird having been in PE classes with Spurs & Rob Woodman seeing them get paid to do wht they love doing ie cricket, when I have no idea where my life is going!
I wouldn't say the worst!! Having seen most of the home matches he's played over the past couple of seasons I can definitely justify saying that.
Which is why I said he wasn't as good with the bat as the other 2
Although saying that, he can be quite a destructive one-day batsman.
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Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
You can
all you like, the fact is it's true. If you play, you take wickets - eventually.And if I played 300 Test-matches (and bowled, obviously) I'd very probably get 200 wickets.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Calm down, it was Hingston who said he was, not me.
Mmm...
I know he's not the worst - the Graham Napiers, Daniel Cherrys, Ryan Cummins', John Maunderses, John Sadlers, Christopher Peploes, Steven Crooks, Neil Sakers, James Anyons, Nadeem Maliks and Joseph Sayerses give him a decent run for his money there.