Super Eight

[pup11]

Lolz @ myself made a blunder there mate (KiWiNiNjA) i meant Fitness test, so don't worry Watto hasn't done anything stupid!!, i have been the one who has just made a stupid mistake.

 

[chaminda_00]

Yeah but Australia don't rotate people at World Cups either. It's usually 'insignificant' tournaments and the part of the idea of the rotations is the build up to the World Cup. If you'd say it was a tactic to shield the two bowlers from the Australians that'd be fair enough, cunning some would say. But resting? Give me a break. Honestly, I don't believe SL didn't play those two because of preservation concerns even for a second.

And surely it's not in SL's best interest to be thrashed just a week or so out from the finals.

I think you find they would have been rested for one the last two games. IMO the main reason for resting them for this game over Ireland was to give the four other bowlers a decent shot out for the last spot. Rather then them playing Ireland getting 4-fer not much and getting pick when they haven't proved anything. In an ideal world one of those four would have stepped up today and picked themselves for the 4th bowling spot. There is no doubt that Vaas and Murali could have played, but this by far the best chance for the selectors to allow the four back up bowlers a real chance at a shoot out for the last spot. It didn't work, but it means that Vaas, Murali and Malinga are more fresh for the semis.

From a Sri Lankan point of view, its not good to get thrashed, but there are positives to come out of the batting performance. Ok the top order failed, but Chamara Silva proved his the real deal with that innings. Mahela back in form and the lower order should some fight back. The bowling was dire, but we will look at that and say only one of those bowlers will play in the semis and beyond.

Also i think the move had very little to do with shielding Murali and Vaas from Australia, how many times have they played them now?

 

[LA ICE-E]

i think it was smart for SL not to play their best players...cause winning this match would do them much good and get Australia even more fired up for the semis and final. WI beat Aus in the group stage of CT but what happened in the final? They got crushed so, if SL's tactic works then that's brilliant. Just sad that Aussies winning streak continues.

 

[marc71178]

What did Watto do this time?

They're just checking that he's not Graeme Smith in disguise.

 

[marc71178]

Yeah but Australia don't rotate people at World Cups either.

Did not Bracken sit out the previous game though?

Or does that not count as rotating?

 

[pasag]

Did not Bracken sit out the previous game though?

Or does that not count as rotating?

Typical nitpicking post. One player was rested for a game against Ireland. The only change for the entire World Cup. Your one line posts are pretty irritating at times especially when taking things out of context.

 

[Pratters]

Brumby.. WTF is your avatar? :S

 

[chaminda_00]

Typical nitpicking post. One player was rested for a game against Ireland. The only change for the entire World Cup. Your one line posts are pretty irritating at times especially when taking things out of context.

TBF he does have a point the only time Sri Lanka has rested players during this World Cup is against Australia. Really its like saying its ok for Australia to rest player(s) in one match during the World Cup, but if Sri Lanka do it for one match, its not right. Clear sign of double standards IMO. If we rested players against Ireland then no one would really care. But cus we did it against Australia it is a big deal.

 

[pasag]

TBF he does have a point the only time Sri Lanka has rested players during this World Cup is against Australia. Really its like saying its ok for Australia to rest player(s) in one match during the World Cup, but if Sri Lanka do it for one match, its not right. Clear sign of double standards IMO. If we rested players against Ireland then no one would really care. But cus we did it against Australia it is a big deal.

Firstly he doesn't have a point and neither do you. You responded to people criticising Sri Lanka for resting Murali and Vaas by comparing it to Australia's long standing rotation policy which I then refuted by saying that the policy doesn't get used in World Cups to which he then nitpicked by saying that Bracken was rested. However this was an exception to the rule, which doesn't prove anything. It is obvious to anyone that Australia have not been rotating at all during this World Cup. The fact that one player didn't play against a minnow proves nothing. So he doesn't have a point at all and has taken things out of context.

Also it's not hypocritical to criticise Sri lanka for leaving out Vaas and Murali and not Australia for doing so to Bracken because leaving out Bracken was of no consequence to the match. Murali and Vaas were and they changed the whole dynamic of it. Sri Lanka never had a chance because they weren't there. Simple as. Sri Lanka threw the game. It might have been to win the tournament, but they threw the game nonetheless.

 

[chaminda_00]

Firstly he doesn't have a point and neither do you. You responded to people criticising Sri Lanka for resting Murali and Vaas by comparing it to Australia's long standing rotation policy which I then refuted by saying that the policy doesn't get used in World Cups to which he then nitpicked by saying that Bracken was rested. However this was an exception to the rule, which doesn't prove anything. It is obvious to anyone that Australia have not been rotating at all during this World Cup. The fact that one player didn't play against a minnow proves nothing. So he doesn't have a point at all and has taken things out of context.

If you rest a player it doesn't really matter if it against Australia or a minnow, its still squad rotation. Clearly Bracken was rested to see what form Clark was in and to see if it was worth playing five bowlers if Watson was out long term. Clearly Sri Lanka did the same thing to see which one of the four back up bowlers was in the best form to play at 4th bowler. I don't see how the two situation are any different apart from the names of the opp. Its not as if Sri Lanka have roated through out the whole tournment either, one match which basically means nothing to the end result is not a big deal, people are a bigger deal out of it then what it was.

Also it's not hypocritical to criticise Sri lanka for leaving out Vaas and Murali and not Australia for doing so to Bracken because leaving out Bracken was of no consequence to the match. Murali and Vaas were and they changed the whole dynamic of it. Sri Lanka never had a chance because they weren't there. Simple as. Sri Lanka threw the game. It might have been to win the tournament, but they threw the game nonetheless.

You honestly think that we threw the match before it started. If that was the case then why did Silva and Jayawardene work their buts of to try and get us back in the match. I didn't see one player out there for Sri Lanka not give 110% like they do every match. Our top order got rolled, but that had more to do with the quality of Bracken and McGarth. Our bowlers strugged but that again had more to do with the quality of the Australia batting.

 

[LA ICE-E]

if you guys gave 110% and still lost that bad 'cause of australia's quality than i guess everyone's screwed and australia won it

 

[pasag]

You honestly think that we threw the match before it started. If that was the case then why did Silva and Jayawardene work their buts of to try and get us back in the match. I didn't see one player out there for Sri Lanka not give 110% like they do every match. Our top order got rolled, but that had more to do with the quality of Bracken and McGarth. Our bowlers strugged but that again had more to do with the quality of the Australia batting.

Of course the players didn't throw it and of course every player gave 100%. Tactically they threw the match. That's pretty obvious. They sacrificed a World Cup match for long term reasons. Ie winning the World Cup. When you leave out Murali and Vaas when Malinga is already out for the game, it is going beyond the realms of rotations and resting and into the absurd. Again, obviously SL have to do what is in their best interests, but it doesn't mean I have to be happy about it at all.

 

[LA ICE-E]

Again, obviously SL have to do what is in their best interests, but it doesn't mean I have to be happy about it at all.

Yeah because he wants australia to win!
AGAIN!!!

 

[Perm]

Will be hoping that KP can make a good score tonight, he should be in nice and early so he'll have plenty of time.

 

[chaminda_00]

Of course the players didn't throw it and of course every player gave 100%. Tactically they threw the match. That's pretty obvious. They sacrificed a World Cup match for long term reasons. Ie winning the World Cup. When you leave out Murali and Vaas when Malinga is already out for the game, it is going beyond the realms of rotations and resting and into the absurd. Again, obviously SL have to do what is in their best interests, but it doesn't mean I have to be happy about it at all.

If we rested Jayasuriya as well then it would have gone into the realms of being absurd...

 

[Raghav]

Raghav what happened to your prediction mate, where did it go wrong?

Just wondering and could not make out ..whats wrong happening with my prediction. I was hoping jayasuriya to fire but he didnt, and thats where got wrong

 

[Raghav]

I would love Eng;land to win today....I hope to not get wrong today.....

 

[LA ICE-E]

England needs to win today or the all the rest of the games are going to be dead matches.

 

[pasag]

England needs to win today or the all the rest of the games are going to be dead matches.

Yeah, If England wins tonight, the rest of the Super 8 stage gets really exciting. If not...

Go England!

 

[Perm]

England needs to win today or the all the rest of the games are going to be dead matches.

Dead matches in terms of progression to the semi finals. I don't see anything dead about a New Zealand vs Australia clash.