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TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Good win for Ireland, writing was always on the cards once Ireland had negated Bangladesh's three prone spin attack by batting first.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Good win for Ireland, writing was always on the cards once Ireland had negated Bangladesh's three prone spin attack by batting first.
The Irish batsman were actually struggling against Saqibul, Rafique and Razzaq until Johntson and Kevin O'Brien started to belt them around a bit near the end. When Porterfield and Bray decided to use their feet and hit down the ground it was quite effective, but they couldn't nudge it around and milk them through the middle overs.
 

pup11

International Coach
Well played Ireland!! Very impressed with the Irish performance and they have given ample proof through this WC that they are a team with potential.



Now its upto the ICC and the Irish cricket board to see how they can carry-forward cricket in Ireland, i definately feel if cricket and cricketers are nurtured in the right way in Ireland then in some years time Ireland could be playing regular cricket at the international level.
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
The Irish batsman were actually struggling against Saqibul, Rafique and Razzaq until Johntson and Kevin O'Brien started to belt them around a bit near the end. When Porterfield and Bray decided to use their feet and hit down the ground it was quite effective, but they couldn't nudge it around and milk them through the middle overs.
Would have been a considerably harder task in the second innings for the wicket had lost a considerable amount of pace and inconsistent bounce was apparent.

Bangladesh’s best option considering Rasel was replaced by the rather hapless Shahadat Hossain is to bat first. Although, considering the great difficulty they made out of facing pace bowling once more in the second innings, a defeat would have still probably occurred.
 

pup11

International Coach
Anyways today's game is gonna be great i can just sense it, the team news for both teams atm is that Malinga is not playing for Sri lanka and Watson isn't playing for Australia either (but Ricky says he is recovering well for the NZ game).



P.S: Moody said Sri lankans would find it easier to play Tait compared to other teams because their players face a similar "slingshot" bowler in Malinga everyday at the nets.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Would have been a considerably harder task in the second innings for the wicket had lost a considerable amount of pace and inconsistent bounce was apparent.

Bangladesh’s best option considering Rasel was replaced by the rather hapless Shahadat Hossain is to bat first. Although, considering the great difficulty they made out of facing pace bowling once more in the second innings, a defeat would have still probably occurred.
I didn't actually catch the second innings but I imagine it would have been much harder facing them then, as you mentioned. I take it you didn't see Shadhadat Hossain bowling? He was very impressive, had a couple of chances drop short of the slips and found the edge on quite a few occasions. Bowled with good pace and got some nice shape early on, I can't see why you would label him as "hapless"
 

Tim

Cricketer Of The Year
The problem for Bangladesh is that they are taking a few giant steps forward then a couple backwards. But, they have shown they can compete in more games than previously so the future is good if Ireland and Bangladesh are at least applying some pressure right now.
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
The problem for Bangladesh is that they are taking a few giant steps forward then a couple backwards. But, they have shown they can compete in more games than previously so the future is good if Ireland and Bangladesh are at least applying some pressure right now.
Most definitely Tim, Bangladesh are a team void of consistency but evidently also a team void of a plan b and rigorous approach to batting. They play cricket on the fly almost with just raw emotion and they always seem one dropped catch, one bad shot, one bad ball away from losing that spark and desire.
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
I didn't actually catch the second innings but I imagine it would have been much harder facing them then, as you mentioned. I take it you didn't see Shadhadat Hossain bowling? He was very impressive, had a couple of chances drop short of the slips and found the edge on quite a few occasions. Bowled with good pace and got some nice shape early on, I can't see why you would label him as "hapless"
Compared to the steady hand of Syed Rasel, Shahadat seemed a little bit too raw for me and he struggled to almost land two balls on the same length or line. Although, he bowled with a decent lick and his action is not awful, just was not the right combo with Mortaza for me.
 

Raghav

International Vice-Captain
Hmm shocked tbh... but if Bang can beat RSA and India, then why can't Ireland beat Bang?

Simple as that. In the one day game anything can happen..... expect Australia losing :ph34r: .

You should learn one thing out of this.. If IRL can score 240 against BAN, poor IND could not score even 200. And If IRL can bowl out IRL for 168 IND could nt bowl out IRL for 192...Poor IND....

Again it really shows how idiot team is IND but great only with great individuals. They are a bad team side. I know this is not a reasonable comparison, but I would like to get this point known to everyone
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Compared to the steady hand of Syed Rasel, Shahadat seemed a little bit too raw for me and he struggled to almost land two balls on the same length or line. Although, he bowled with a decent lick and his action is not awful, just was not the right combo with Mortaza for me.
I disagree entirely, I thought Shadhadat bowled really well even though his accuracy wasn't too flash. Early on he swung the ball and looked very likely to take wickets, after his initial burst he pegged the batsman back a little bit and kept the run rate down. This guy has genuine potential, he was bowling almost 140 km/h which is very quick for a Bangladeshi bowler, couple that with his height and swing and he could be deadly. Needs to do some gym work though, he's far too skinny to survive as a fast bowler.
 

LA ICE-E

State Captain
You should learn one thing out of this.. If IRL can score 240 against BAN, poor IND could not score even 200. And If IRL can bowl out IRLfor 168 IND could nt bowl out IRL for 192 ...Poor IND....

Again it really shows how idiot team is IND but great only with great individuals. They are a bad team side. I know this is not a reasonable comparison, but I would like to get this point known to everyone
what's the point exactly? Ireland is a good side and so is bangladesh, and this is sports winning and losing is part of it.

Also how can Ireland bowl out Ireland? and India didn't even play Ireland.:p
 

Trigger_Tiger

U19 Captain
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I disagree entirely, I thought Shadhadat bowled really well even though his accuracy wasn't too flash. Early on he swung the ball and looked very likely to take wickets, after his initial burst he pegged the batsman back a little bit and kept the run rate down. This guy has genuine potential, he was bowling almost 140 km/h which is very quick for a Bangladeshi bowler, couple that with his height and swing and he could be deadly. Needs to do some gym work though, he's far too skinny to survive as a fast bowler.
Unfornutate thing for him is that he is quite expensive of the 3 pacers. But if he is a little more accurate like Rasel, he can be a threat in the future. Poor Rasel, had to retire hurt just before the match started today :(.....things went totally horrible from there, and adding Ashraful's finger dislocation to that.....*sigh*.....oh well, the good thing that came out of this match was that Ireland has gained ODI status :).....hurt that my team lost but pretty happy that the Irish are in and I daresay, they'll be a handful in the near future if their cricketing structure developes soon :)!!!!!
 

LA ICE-E

State Captain
Unfornutate thing for him is that he is quite expensive of the 3 pacers. But if he is a little more accurate like Rasel, he can be a threat in the future. Poor Rasel, had to retire hurt just before the match started today :(.....things went totally horrible from there, and adding Ashraful's finger dislocation to that.....*sigh*.....oh well, the good thing that came out of this match was that Ireland has gained ODI status :).....hurt that my team lost but pretty happy that the Irish are in and I daresay, they'll be a handful in the near future if their cricketing structure developes soon :)!!!!!
Ireland had odi status since like 2005. The top 6 associates that qualify for the wc gains ODI status but Ireland gained promotion from the associate odi rankings to main odi rankings.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Unfornutate thing for him is that he is quite expensive of the 3 pacers. But if he is a little more accurate like Rasel, he can be a threat in the future. Poor Rasel, had to retire hurt just before the match started today :(.....things went totally horrible from there, and adding Ashraful's finger dislocation to that.....*sigh*.....oh well, the good thing that came out of this match was that Ireland has gained ODI status :).....hurt that my team lost but pretty happy that the Irish are in and I daresay, they'll be a handful in the near future if their cricketing structure developes soon :)!!!!!
Is a the most expensive but he's also the quickest and tallest, I think he has more potential than Syed Rasel, especially in Test matches. Ireland have had ODI status for a while now and their victory over Bangladesh hasn't changed that, but it hasn't made them ODI class either which you may be suggesting.
 

Trigger_Tiger

U19 Captain
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@ LA ICE-E: Oh, no I don't quite mean that but they have had the ODI status for a temporary 2 year period prior to today's win. Today's win have moved them up to being a permanent ODI team.....at least that is what the ICC say :unsure:!!!!!

@ Perm: *See above please* (&): True, I always liked Shahadat, but he just needs to be a little more consistent. He is after all the first hat-trick taker for Bangladesh :D.....and yes he is the fastest the Bangers have :).....just did not get any aid from the fielders today though :dry:!!!!!
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
@ Perm: *See above please* (&): True, I always liked Shahadat, but he just needs to be a little more consistent. He is after all the first hat-trick taker for Bangladesh :D.....and yes he is the fastest the Bangers have :).....just did not get any aid from the fielders today though :dry:!!!!!
I understand what you mean now after reading cricinfo, they have entered the ICC ODI Rankings because they have defeated two Test playing nations. Good news for them I suppose, but I think they will end up sitting at the bottom and not making much progress due to the lack of ODI's they will play. I like the look of Shadhadat too, it's not often you see a Bangladeshi fast bowler actually bowl with much pace. He's one for the future.
 

LA ICE-E

State Captain
@ LA ICE-E: Oh, no I don't quite mean that but they have had the ODI status for a temporary 2 year period prior to today's win. Today's win have moved them up to being a permanent ODI team.....at least that is what the ICC say :unsure:!!!!!
The ICC doesn't give permanent ODI status anymore which is a good thing, because there's a check every 4 years and then you go on. Kenya will lose theirs too in 2009 unless they qualify for the wc or get test status. Todays win promoted Ireland to the main table but if they don't qualify for the wc then they'll lose it. But I'm sure they will.
 

LA ICE-E

State Captain
I understand what you mean now after reading cricinfo, they have entered the ICC ODI Rankings because they have defeated two Test playing nations. Good news for them I suppose, but I think they will end up sitting at the bottom and not making much progress due to the lack of ODI's they will play.
No, they may move up and down fighting with kenya and zimbabwe. :p But they do have odi's and other things confirmed with icc organizing some for them.
21st May: 2006/07 Intercontinental Cup Final v Canada at venue TBA
10th-13th July: ODI Tri-Series v Netherlands/West Indies in Dublin
17th-19th July: ODI Tri-Series v Netherlands/Scotland in Belfast
20th-22nd July: European Twenty20 Championship v Denmark/Netherlands/Scotland in Belfast
9th August: 2007/08 Intercontinental Cup v Scotland in Dublin
15th August: 2007/08 Intercontinental Cup v Bermuda in Belfast

2008

3rd July: 2007/08 Intercontinental Cup v UAE
10th July: 2007/08 Intercontinental Cup v Netherlands
25th - 31st July: European Championship Division One in Ireland (ODIs v Netherlands/Scotland)
5th August: ODI v Canada
7th August: 2007/08 Intercontinental Cup v Canada
22nd October: ODI v Kenya
24th October: 2007/08 Intercontinental Cup v Kenya
30th October: 2007/08 Intercontinental Cup v Namibia

Other fixtures may be confirmed of course.
 

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