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*Official* English Football Season 2006-07

Matteh

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Depends who you speak to but several United fans that SSN interviewed said that the Roma fans were fine during the day leading up to the game, and then became totally different people once the game had started.

But yes, Italy have had a lot of crowd trouble lately, Roma had a CL game abandoned a couple of years ago due to a missile to the head of a ref, Dida got hit by a missile recently too.
I heard 3 people got stabbed before the match tbh.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I think European clubs see having English fans in as meaning they have an excuse to do what they like and then blame it on English 'hooligans' later. The police or equivalent have been largely clueless or worse in both of the two recent skirmishes.

It isn't being helped by the completely useless media who keep trying to apportion blame to the English fans and ramble on about there are troublemakers in the fans for each English club - when there's clearly troublemakers at any decent sized club in Europe and not at all limited to just the English.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
I think European clubs see having English fans in as meaning they have an excuse to do what they like and then blame it on English 'hooligans' later. The police or equivalent have been largely clueless or worse in both of the two recent skirmishes.

It isn't being helped by the completely useless media who keep trying to apportion blame to the English fans and ramble on about there are troublemakers in the fans for each English club - when there's clearly troublemakers at any decent sized club in Europe and not at all limited to just the English.
Completely agree with this. I can imagine we'll cop the punishments for this from UEFA, when in all reality, Italian football should be given a serious kick up the arse and the only way to do this is a long-term European ban IMO. Matchfixing, unsafe grounds, scumbag fans, need I continue?
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
Maybe our fans will be now known as the worst? 2 bust ups with the police in 2 days is doing our continental repuation no good.
Definitely I'd apportion more blame to the police than to our fans WRT the United game, haven't been following the Spuds bust-up as closely, but sounds like the police could well be to blame there too.
 

luffy

International Captain
Haha Tottenham lost. It's only funny cause one of my friends goes for them. I gave her so much **** today.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Completely agree with this. I can imagine we'll cop the punishments for this from UEFA, when in all reality, Italian football should be given a serious kick up the arse and the only way to do this is a long-term European ban IMO. Matchfixing, unsafe grounds, scumbag fans, need I continue?
Marco Materazzi?
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
I think European clubs see having English fans in as meaning they have an excuse to do what they like and then blame it on English 'hooligans' later. The police or equivalent have been largely clueless or worse in both of the two recent skirmishes.

It isn't being helped by the completely useless media who keep trying to apportion blame to the English fans and ramble on about there are troublemakers in the fans for each English club - when there's clearly troublemakers at any decent sized club in Europe and not at all limited to just the English.
TBF more-or-less every report I've seen has at least partly blamed heavy-handed policing for the problems rather than the travelling fans.
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
TBF more-or-less every report I've seen has at least partly blamed heavy-handed policing for the problems rather than the travelling fans.
Think he's referring to the Italian press, who predictably will hear nothing against their policemen (or fans).
 

Ash_A55

U19 Captain
2 bust ups in 2 days, maybe, but it comes down to who is at fault for the bustups. It could just be a xenophobia against English teams amongst certain groups of European fans.

These are the same away fans that travel around England for Premiership games, yet there's rarely issues there (that I know of).
The thing is, if it was the English fans causing riots, then we would see this on a weekly basis here. But we dont! Whereas in Italy with the 'ultras' it happens all the time. They are drug runners and gang lords. They even filled a mo-ped full of petrol, set it alight, and threw it onto the away fans below. Luckily no one was injured. But how do they get knives and mo-peds into stadiums? I get searched every week no matter what before i watch Sheffield Wednesday.

The Italians are to blame! Dirty thugs!
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Think he's referring to the Italian press, who predictably will hear nothing against their policemen (or fans).
The media in this country as well have been trying to put some blame on English fans. I caught some of the Channel 5 football show at midnight last night/this morning, they generally have journalists in tho I've no idea who was there this time. But they kept coming up with lines about how there are hooligans at every ground in England, as if there weren't any in Europe. These sort of nondescript statements almost endorse the excuses Italy and Spain will and have come up with to cover their own backs.

As for the Spurs game there was the usual riot police beating people up as they offered no resistance, that much was clear from the live footage that was being shown. For the first few seconds of what they were showing there were so few of the police to start with that they got completely surrounded by fans. If the fans had been hooligans they would have copped a right beating there and then, but they were allowed to get to a point where the police were on one side and the fans on the other and the police started the 'pummel everyone' routine.
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Gawd this match is a dog, and a rather mangy flea-bitten one that nips at children and old ladies, at that. To think I've payed for Premplus for this:wacko:

Still, almost making me look forward to Exeter/chavworth tomorrow, it can't be any worse:unsure:
 

roseboy64

Cricket Web Content Updater
Gawd this match is a dog, and a rather mangy flea-bitten one that nips at children and old ladies, at that. To think I've payed for Premplus for this:wacko:

Still, almost making me look forward to Exeter/chavworth tomorrow, it can't be any worse:unsure:
Everton v Fulham was better. Tough luck.
 

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