Shane Watson, is he unlucky or what?

[Goughy]

Fitting in with one of the article listed above.

Anyone hear Botham talking about how he feels Watson hits the gym too often and shortens and tightens the muscles making them prone to injury. Its an idea that has been talked about across a number of sports.

He talked about how bowlers must bowl (sounding similar to Bedser in his comments) many overs and that is the only way to prepare.

 

[Richard]

TBH, I've seen no evidence to prove that gymwork is a better way to learn to bowl than bowling is.

Maybe you could enlighten me?

 

[Goughy]

TBH, I've seen no evidence to prove that gymwork is a better way to learn to bowl than bowling is.

Maybe you could enlighten me?

Sorry, I dont understand.

When did I say it was?

 

[Richard]

Oh, maybe I misconstrued you, you seemed to be putting Botham and Bedser in the old-fuddy-duddy-stuck-in-the-old-ways-can't-keep-with-advances-in-trade sort of place with your previous post.

Apologies if you weren't.

 

[four_or_six]

Fitting in with one of the article listed above.

Anyone hear Botham talking about how he feels Watson hits the gym too often and shortens and tightens the muscles making them prone to injury.

And yet the Australian physio says Watson does hardly any gym work... I would imagine he knows more about the guy's training regime than Botham.

To be honest, Botham spouts all sorts of rubbish these days.

 

[Goughy]

And yet the Australian physio says Watson does hardly any gym work... I would imagine he knows more about the guy's training regime than Botham.

To be honest, Botham spouts all sorts of rubbish these days.

He probably does know more. I dont doubt it.

However, if only all of us could look like this without having to gym hard

 

[four_or_six]

He probably does know more. I dont doubt it.

However, if only all of us could look like this without having to gym hard

Yes, he's a lucky boy. Or should I say Lee Furlong is a lucky girl :-P

 

[vic_orthdox]

I think Watson was a bit of a "gym junkie" earlier in his career. Now, though, I'd dare guess that most of the stuff he'd be doing is core work, rather than the "beach weights".

TBH, I've seen no evidence to prove that gymwork is a better way to learn to bowl than bowling is.

Maybe you could enlighten me?

"Gymwork" is seen as an effective method of injury prevention. Except in Watson's case, evidently...

 

[pup11]

Watson is out for atleast 3 weeks and even after he gets fit to pick him straight away for semis or finals won't be the right way to go.


Scans have shown he has got a calf-tear, and his condition would be further assessed after a week.


I think Aussies are going to have some serious problem with their 5th bowling option now, when they would be pitted against strong sides.

Symo needs to step-up a level soon atleast with the ball.

 

[pup11]

Botham was just having a dig at the Aussies (and nothing new in that i might add) by raising the Watson issue, how can he say Watson is hitting the gym to often or not is he his gym-instructor.

 

[Perm]

Fitting in with one of the article listed above.

Anyone hear Botham talking about how he feels Watson hits the gym too often and shortens and tightens the muscles making them prone to injury. Its an idea that has been talked about across a number of sports.

He talked about how bowlers must bowl (sounding similar to Bedser in his comments) many overs and that is the only way to prepare.

The only way that Watson would be shortening his muscles would be if the weights he was doing were too heavy and he wasn't able to do many of them before becoming tired and needing a rest. If he was looking to maintain fitness and keep his muscles strong, lighter weights would be ideal as he should look to do quite a lot of them before tiring. That would lengthen and also strengthen his muscles, without shortening them or making them bulging.

 

[pup11]

There is poll on baggygreen.com.au questioning whether Watson should avoid bowling to prolong his career.


But IMO, if Watson doesn't bowl i don't see him holding his position in the team on his batting alone, atleast not atm.

So what do you guys think about it, should he quit bowling.

 

[Perm]

He certainly has the FC batting average to warrant selection as a pure batsman.

 

[Calvin]

He certainly has the FC batting average to warrant selection as a pure batsman.

I am pretty sure Australia has better candidates to fill in purely as a batsman.

 

[Perm]

I am pretty sure Australia has better candidates to fill in purely as a batsman.

I agree, but I'm just pointing out he has the figures to suceed.

 

[pup11]

Aussie selectors have always been criticised for having given Watson an easy ride as far as selection is concerned.


They have done this because they are desperate to see Watson develop into a good world class all-rounder.

And if Watson doesn't bowl then i don't think he would be rated too highly by the selectors just as a batsman (atleast atm).

 

[Prince EWS]

He certainly has the FC batting average to warrant selection as a pure batsman.

He doesn't have the List A average though - especially if he's going to bat #7 where he's clearly not as good at one day cricket.

As a specialist test batsman, I do think he'd eventually get a shot ITBT - especially given he could focus more on his batting if he gave the bowling away.

 

[Perm]

I was actually referring to Test cricket, which was a little bit naughty of me seeing as how we were discussing the World Cup and ODI cricket. If Watson had to drop his bowling, then he would definately not be in the Australian ODI team at the moment and at any time in the near future. Test's would be a different story though. Somehow I don't think he will give up bowling though, because it adds a whole other dimension to his play which is incredibly valuable for his own, and the teams balance.

 

[pup11]

Yeah, I also agree that Watto would never give up on his bowling because he very well knows that its his all-round capabilities that have helped him to make it to the side.


P.S: I just think Watto should take some tips from Symo on how to recover from injuries.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Giving up bowling for Watson just isn't plausible, unless he genuinely can't do it any more, which seems unlikely. Perhaps if it was a stress fracture problem or something he could consider focusing on his batting, but not for a calf strain.

Watson's got a long way to go in his career yet, and is probably still 3 or 4 years short of his peak, and perhaps longer short of his peak as a batsman. There's no way he's going to make a decision like that now.