Group B - Sri Lanka, India, Bangladesh, Bermuda

[haroon510]

good win from SRi Lankans
made my proud
india out lol
yeeeeeeeee lol

 

[Pratters]

no don't put words in my mouth...a major overhaul can happen with a lot of non-performing team members removed and young blood introduced instead...it can but it doesn't necessarily mean that there needs to be a new captain...it is clear that this team isn't getting the job done....dravid cannot be chucked out of the team, neither can ganguly right now, tendulkar's place in my opinion is questionable, i thought about yuvraj as well as captain but what credentials does he have that these guys didn't/don't have? if not yuvraj, who else is there whose place in the team is assured, who has a good head on his shoulders, who is a cool thinker and can possibly take the team to another level...i can't think of anyone(kaif was being groomed at one point, now he is not even in the team)....so when you talk about replacing dravid, you've got to have a decent replacement in mind and you've got to justify why he would be a better choice(tendulkar was a disaster as a captain and now that he is past his best even as a batsman, it's really not the time to anoint him of all people)...

I am not putting words into your mouth. I just don't see how an overhaul can happen by just changing players in India's case because we have done that so many times in the past couple of years. Think whatever you want.. it is just ludicrous to say x y z players should be dropped because they didnt take up the responsibility (you mentioned Tendulkar forcibly given his stature) and didnt perform but Dravid shouldn't be dropped from captaincy as no one is available to take on the mantle while maintaining the idea is for overhaul.

As I said earlier, it is just an excuse to say no one is available where captaincy is concerned and Dravid is undroppable from captaincy. I guess we disagree on the way we look at it here. No worries and I think we both have put across what we wanted to, so let us end it here..

 

[Anil]

No it comes down to NRR

no at this point it comes down to bangladesh beating up on bermuda and thus driving in the final nail on the coffin of india's world cup "campaign"....

 

[Anil]

I am not putting words into your mouth. I just don't see how an overhaul can happen by just changing players in India's case because we have done that so many times in the past couple of years. Think whatever you want.. it is just ludicrous to say x y z players should be dropped because they didnt take up the responsibility (you mentioned Tendulkar forcibly given his stature) and didnt perform but Dravid shouldn't be dropped from captaincy as no one is available to take on the mantle while maintaining the idea is for overhaul.

As I said earlier, it is just an excuse to say no one is available where captaincy is concerned and Dravid is undroppable.

i mentioned this match and tendulkar because it's happening right now but i am obviously not talking just about this match...i am talking about what's been happening for a long time now....and i am not making any excuse for dravid, if you have a better option than dravid, then suggest it...i can't see any real captaincy material guys in this team other than dravid or ganguly or maybe yuvraj(i still don't know what he would've done to deserve it but one thing going in his favour would be that his place is assured in the odi side anyway)....

 

[silentstriker]

i mentioned this match and tendulkar because it's happening right now but i am obviously not talking just about this match...i am talking about what's been happening for a long time now....and i am not making any excuse for dravid, if you have a better option than dravid, then suggest it...i can't see any real captaincy material guys in this team other than dravid or ganguly or maybe yuvraj(i still don't know what he would've done to deserve it but one thing going in his favour would be that his place is assured in the odi side anyway)....

Why would you make a guy who is not a Test quality batsman the captain of the Indian team?

 

[Goughy]

The dreams of 1 billion people is on the shoulders of that fat man from Bermuda.

 

[nnn_0173]

Losers...........

its about time indian fans realise that their team is the most over-rated cricket team in the world...... and only indian fans are illogical enough to think that by winning against Bermuda, their team had saved their asses.... well they had another thing coming........... the Sri Lankan Lions.......


PS: TIGER's and LION's are roaring
Indian pussies should go and lick some f*******n milk.............

 

[Anil]

Why would you make a guy who is not a Test quality batsman the captain of the Indian team?

exactly...that would quite likely create a situation of two separate captains as well...and if you notice, i wasn't actually endorsing a yuvraj ascendancy to odi captaincy...

 

[Pratters]

i mentioned this match and tendulkar because it's happening right now but i am obviously not talking just about this match...i am talking about what's been happening for a long time now....and i am not making any excuse for dravid, if you have a better option than dravid, then suggest it...i can't see any real captaincy material guys in this team other than dravid or ganguly or maybe yuvraj(i still don't know what he would've done to deserve it but one thing going in his favour would be that his place is assured in the odi side anyway)....

Ganguly and Yuvraj.. you mentioned 2 already before I even mentioned any one . Also, you are saying the team needs an overhaul immediately (for which I feel captaincy overhaul is necessary, without which it is farcical to say it is an overhaul in India's case), not me. I wouldn't mind waiting a series or two if that would seem the better option. We also have likes of Tendulkar and Kumble to become the captain if need be. Regarding dropping some seniors, no one has said that cannot be done but as I said, I do not believe just doing that will solve any thing as we have been changing players over the past couple of years.

 

[Goughy]

Well played SL. Loved the energy that the team had in the field. That combined with the old men (Sanath and Murali) and good pace bowling makes them a fun team to watch.

Based purely on how they have a bubbly, energetic feel, Im happy they won this game and virtually consigned India to an early exit.

 

[silentstriker]

its about time indian fans realise that their team is the most over-rated cricket team in the world......

No one here [except maybe Turbinator and Dravid] thought India had a realistic chance of winning the whole thing.

Hey look at me, I'm a complete moron and I don't mind if everyone knows it.

Yup, completely right there.

 

[GGG]

Isn't India now out of it? I thought if 2 teams are equal on points the team that beat the other is through, and if 3 teams are equal then it goes down to run rate, that what I thought.

Of course Bermuda will have 2 points as well doh

 

[Trigger_Tiger]

.....

Expected such an outcome but the way India started, I thought, good, this would be a good game, but I guess I over-estimated the situation !!!!!

I can definitely see Sri Lanka in the final if they go the way they are going.

Their fielding was spectacular, bowling was fine and the batsmen contributed so well !!!!!

Supporting Sri Lanka this WC for sure, whethere they win or lose, it's just so much fun seeing them fly around in the field when fielding and turn the pressure on the opposition in such a care-free manner !!!!!

As for India: WTF happened ?!?!?!?!?!

 

[Anil]

Ganguly and Yuvraj.. you mentioned 2 already before I even mentioned any one . Regarding dropping some seniors, no one has said that cannot be done but as I said, I do not believe just doing that will solve any thing as we have been changing players over the past couple of years.

i have concerns on both...the only reason i mentioned them is because they are the only performing players that can be even remotely considered other than dravid...but as ss pointed out, yuvi doesn't have a solid test spot so that would be a complication and could result in separate captains and i am in two minds about a ganguly-captained side, personally i feel it would be step back but then with no other candidates in sight and if the selectors want to end dravid's tenure, that would, i guess be the best of a really bad situation....as for dropping seniors over the past couple of years, other than laxman, who have we really dropped as far as one dayers go? most everyone else still seems to be in contention...and is it because they still deserve their place? no! we have a pathetic bowling attack, we don't need an irfan pathan to accentuate that weakness...pathan should not be near the indian team until he has re-learned the art of bowling....it would be a tragedy if sehwag holds his place in the team for another 20 one dayers on the basis on the last 2 performances....he should never ever be considered for odis....kumble should retire from odis, ideally so should tendulkar....another player who should never play for india ever again is the great, the one-and-only ajit agarkar...these are a few players that should be replaced immediately....chappell's approach seems to have backfired bigtime so if a new coach needs to be installed, let's start a new era in indian cricket...

 

[Lostman]

As a SL fan I was really happy to see SL score 254 when jayasuriya, jayawardene and sangakkara combined for only 28 of 78 balls. With this bowling/fielding attack, i feel confident whenever we have 240+ plus runs to defend.

 

[Pratters]

Anil, read my edited post for the captaincy part.

Also, I don't see why you should go on regarding wanting players dropped as I have written my views on it and do not see a problem with it.

 

[open365]

I cannot believe the two biggest Asian nations are out of the world cup already, the WC was structured like it is to make it so this didn't happen.

 

[Anil]

Anil, read my edited post for the captaincy part.

Also, I don't see why you should go on regarding wanting players dropped as I have written my views on it and do not see a problem with it.

i saw that and my post actually responds to that as well...if you continue to carry that many useless as well as over-the-hill players, you have no hope in hell of being a good team...that's my point....if tendulkar isn't dropped and carries on, his place in the team should at least be performance-based from now on...it hasn't always been in the recent past....

 

[Pratters]

Look mate, I have made it clear captaincy options are available and my views. Also, I repeat for the zillionth time, I have no issues with players being dropped but that alone will solve nothing.

Cheers.

 

[Anil]

Look mate, I have made it clear captaincy options are available and my views. Also, I repeat for the zillionth time, I have no issues with players being dropped but that alone with solve nothing.

Cheers.

ok so what is your plan?

kumble is averaging between 45 and 50 in his last 50 one dayers...based on what would you keep him in the team?

tendulkar is in some sort of form although he failed in the two important matches at the world cup...his captaincy credentials are nothing to write home about...why do you think he would make a good captain? i am sincerely curious...

ganguly - possibly the best option under the circumstances....

dravid - according to you once his captaincy goes, india will be alright...again why do you think so?