Which one of the big 8's will be the first to get knocked out

[rodzilla1010]

yeah, thats why i said, one of the biggest factor on which pakistani team turns up for each match of the whole tour has to be inzamam. I dont expect much from such a captain, but the only way i think he can turn things around is by his own inidividual performance.

I actually think that all the players n the team respect Inzi alot and Inzi is somone who can easily inspire the team by his performance

I predict a semi final berth for pakistan....i will be keen to see the end result of this poll and the actual results

 

[FRAZ]

yeah, thats why i said, one of the biggest factor on which pakistani team turns up for each match of the whole tour has to be i******. I dont expect much from such a captain, .

For the bolded sentence , I nominate this post for Shahid Afridi award please .

 

[IndianByHeart]

I actually think that all the players n the team respect Inzi alot and Inzi is somone who can easily inspire the team by his performance

I predict a semi final berth for pakistan....i will be keen to see the end result of this poll and the actual results

Inzi is no Imran khan, he's not even a Miandad, i have found him to be the most dull, naive and uninspiring captain.I can see Younis inspiring the team as a leader but can't see Inzi doing the same.The best Inzi's fan can expect from him to play at his level best thoughout the competition, if he does that then his team will do well.

 

[rodzilla1010]

Inzi is no Imran khan, he's not even a Miandad, i have found him to be the most dull, naive and uninspiring captain.I can see Younis inspiring the team as a leader but can't see Inzi doing the same.The best Inzi's fan can expect from him to play at his level best thoughout the competition, if he does that then his team will do well.

He is the most inspirational captain Pakistan has had since Wasim Akram, one of the few who can actually lead by example. Not exactly a tactician, but he lead Pakistan through the worst time in thier cricket history, and look at the changes this team has gone through from 2003 to 2007..how many stars from that campiagn survived?

He has a bunch of some ordinary players who are actually playing with unity and giving result...Pakistan has spent most of their time in the top 3 of both version in the past 2 years...and its because of inzi that we developed a great middle order to make up for the depleted bowling attack.

He doesnt Inspire the team by shouting, making fielding changes or magin bowling changes...but he brings the calm in the team....i dont think Pakistan would have been able to chase anything over 300 under any other captain...but in 2005 pakistan chased 317 in 48 overs...with even slogging..Inzi rightly hitting a boundary of the last ball....many other innings where inzimam lead from the front under crunch situation. He lead the time mostly with bowlers like Rana,Sami and Rao...quite not the replacment for Wasim,Waqar and Saqlain...Asif just came last year, Shoiab well he played 3 Odi's and 4 test in 2 years..so..

Younis is a good tactian, but look what happened in the Champion's trophy..look what happened in the only test he captained in WI...He s got to earn more respect before becoming the captain.

So yes Inzi is no Imran or Steve Waugh..Inzi is Inzi..he is lazy but he is calm and he brings some method into the madness of Pakistan Cricket

 

[pup11]

Look rodzilla, i respect your sentiments mate but TBT i really can't see the current pakistan bowling line-up worrying too many good sides, they just don't have the firepower in their bowling atm their batting is really good but that alone won't win them games against good teams.

 

[rodzilla1010]

Look rodzilla, i respect your sentiments mate but TBT i really can't see the current pakistan bowling line-up worrying too many good sides, they just don't have the firepower in their bowling atm their batting is really good but that alone won't win them games against good teams.

Pakistan migh not make it to the final 4 but with inzi as the captain we can atleast hope that we will win a few games.

the bowling is a worry, but again i would say that its because the current crop looks dim in front of Asif ans Akhtar...but if analysed individually they are not so bad

Gul is a very good bowler who has improved alot in the past year
Rana was in the top 10 of ODI rankings 1 month ago
Rao had the 5th best economy rate in the world in 2006
Sami has a better average than Andre Nel, A Kumble , J Kallis or Collymore


this is the attack which won 3-0 in sri lanka, 3-0 in WI, 4-2 in India ..
so its not like we have the worst attack in the tournament its just not as good as it could have been.
The thing is that in the last 6 pak has been in the news for all the wrong reason and all this has led people to believe that Pak is a bad team, but what they forget that its the only team besides aus to be in the top 3 of both versions of the game

 

[IndianByHeart]

He is the most inspirational captain Pakistan has had since Wasim Akram, one of the few who can actually lead by example. Not exactly a tactician, but he lead Pakistan through the worst time in thier cricket history, and look at the changes this team has gone through from 2003 to 2007..how many stars from that campiagn survived?

He has a bunch of some ordinary players who are actually playing with unity and giving result...Pakistan has spent most of their time in the top 3 of both version in the past 2 years...and its because of inzi that we developed a great middle order to make up for the depleted bowling attack.

He doesnt Inspire the team by shouting, making fielding changes or magin bowling changes...but he brings the calm in the team....i dont think Pakistan would have been able to chase anything over 300 under any other captain...but in 2005 pakistan chased 317 in 48 overs...with even slogging..Inzi rightly hitting a boundary of the last ball....many other innings where inzimam lead from the front under crunch situation. He lead the time mostly with bowlers like Rana,Sami and Rao...quite not the replacment for Wasim,Waqar and Saqlain...Asif just came last year, Shoiab well he played 3 Odi's and 4 test in 2 years..so..

Younis is a good tactian, but look what happened in the Champion's trophy..look what happened in the only test he captained in WI...He s got to earn more respect before becoming the captain.

So yes Inzi is no Imran or Steve Waugh..Inzi is Inzi..he is lazy but he is calm and he brings some method into the madness of Pakistan Cricket

Waseem Akram wasn't an inspiration, he might have been but unfortunately he turn out to be a corrupt person.Inzi on other hand is a sincere person, who should be credited for gelling the team togeather and indeed has a calming effect on team, however he doesn't inspire the team, as some good captain like say Ganguly or Waugh did.However i fail to see why is Inzi being credited for Pakistan's good middle order?? Pakistan has a good middle order mainly cause of the brilliance of Younis and Yousuf, Inzi's captaincy has no role in it, infact Inzi is partly responsible in finding a proper opening pair till now, and experimental with opening pair right uptill the warm up matches of WC, thats is indeed madness.

Whatever good work Inzi has done so far might not be enough, he needs to do more, he needs to really lead his team by example and bring the best out of them.I fear that if Pakistan crashes early out of WC, Inzi would be thrown out of the game by PCB.

 

[IndianByHeart]

Kaneria key for Pakistan - Qadir

Kaneria has taken 12 wickets in 16 ODIs
Danish Kaneria will have to be at the top of his game if Pakistan are to make an impression at the World Cup, says former leg-spinner Abdul Qadir.
Kaneria is Pakistan's only specialist spinner and Qadir believes they have made a mistake by failing to include left-armer Abdul Rehman in the squad.

"The pitches will definitely help the spinners," said Qadir, who took 132 one-day wickets for Pakistan.

"No matter what the pitches do, the quality spinners will shine through."

Kaneria has 198 Test wickets but has only played in 16 one-dayers and was omitted for last month's series in South Africa.

Rehman, however, did travel to South Africa and played in one ODI, the 10-wicket defeat in Cape Town.

"Pakistan has gone into the World Cup without a plan. If they wanted Kaneria he should have played in the South Africa one-dayers."

 

[rodzilla1010]

Waseem Akram wasn't an inspiration, he might have been but unfortunately he turn out to be a corrupt person.Inzi on other hand is a sincere person, who should be credited for gelling the team togeather and indeed has a calming effect on team, however he doesn't inspire the team, as some good captain like say Ganguly or Waugh did.However i fail to see why is Inzi being credited for Pakistan's good middle order?? Pakistan has a good middle order mainly cause of the brilliance of Younis and Yousuf, Inzi's captaincy has no role in it, infact Inzi is partly responsible in finding a proper opening pair till now, and experimental with opening pair right uptill the warm up matches of WC, thats is indeed madness.

Whatever good work Inzi has done so far might not be enough, he needs to do more, he needs to really lead his team by example and bring the best out of them.I fear that if Pakistan crashes early out of WC, Inzi would be thrown out of the game by PCB.

Wasim was def an inspiration, he didnt found glory like Imran did nor would he ever be remembered as one of the great leaders of cricket...but under wasim the team used to fight..Pakistan was ranked #1 in ODI's for months..actually we were the last team to be on the top before the aussies calimed it in 1999.

He had a pretty decent World cup campaign in 1999 too, under Akram pakistan found a whole new crop of all rounders, azhar,razzq,saqlain,malik,afridi etc all found place and complimented each other when akram was the captain.

Yes he was curropt, but if you disregard that at his best the pakistan team was the best

 

[Prince EWS]

Pakistan. I'm willing to bet (and in fact, have bet!) that Ireland will beat them and make the Super 8 stage ahead of them.

Not making the Super 8 stage would all-but-certainly make them the winner of this poll.

 

[Evermind]

People voted for England? Strange.

I'm kinda expecting them to make the semi-finals.

 

[rodzilla1010]

Pakistan. I'm willing to bet (and in fact, have bet!) that Ireland will beat them and make the Super 8 stage ahead of them.

Not making the Super 8 stage would all-but-certainly make them the winner of this poll.

I ll take any bet of that kind...what do you put on the line?

 

[Richard]

People voted for England? Strange.

Really?

 

[rodzilla1010]

Pakistan. I'm willing to bet (and in fact, have bet!) that Ireland will beat them and make the Super 8 stage ahead of them.

Not making the Super 8 stage would all-but-certainly make them the winner of this poll.

Helloooooo....i was gonna plan a vacation

 

[sirdj]

Zim might knock West Indies out and cause a riot.

 

[Richard]

Bit unlikely, methinks.

 

[The_Bunny]

Not sure which of the top 8 is the most likely to go but I doubt it would be England as they have what is probably the best draw of the group stage...
Pakistan and West Indies probably have the toughest with Ireland doing well against SA and flooring Canada and Zimbabwe at least not getting all out against Australia and flooring Bermuda... (Admittedly not much of a surprise)
The other thing here is that neither Pakistan or the West Indies is looking in great form.

I took almost all my assesments from the warm up matches as there realy isnt much else to go by to to asess there current form.

Australia And South Africa I cant see going out as the have a very easy draw and being Ranked no 1 and 2 in the world is probably also a factor
And you dont need to tell me how little Rankings matter in an actual game

Also should either India or Sri Lanka lose to Bangladesh (an unlikely prospect but Bangladesh is the best of the "minnows" so a possiblity) then the match vs eah other could go eithr way so thats somthing to watch too I suppose.

Oh well be sure to tear my first ever post into tiny peices and tell me exactly how wrong I am

 

[biased indian]

Not sure which of the top 8 is the most likely to go but I doubt it would be England as they have what is probably the best draw of the group stage...
Pakistan and West Indies probably have the toughest with Ireland doing well against SA and flooring Canada and Zimbabwe at least not getting all out against Australia and flooring Bermuda... (Admittedly not much of a surprise)
The other thing here is that neither Pakistan or the West Indies is looking in great form.

I took almost all my assesments from the warm up matches as there realy isnt much else to go by to to asess there current form.

Australia And South Africa I cant see going out as the have a very easy draw and being Ranked no 1 and 2 in the world is probably also a factor
And you dont need to tell me how little Rankings matter in an actual game

Also should either India or Sri Lanka lose to Bangladesh (an unlikely prospect but Bangladesh is the best of the "minnows" so a possiblity) then the match vs eah other could go eithr way so thats somthing to watch too I suppose.

Oh well be sure to tear my first ever post into tiny peices and tell me exactly how wrong I am

Welcome mate......

Wait till richard comes

 

[Richard]

Uh?

 

[pup11]

Bunny, how does being in an easier group help in the super 8's (yeah the group leader carrier forward 2 points) but eventually in the Super 8's all the top 8 teams clash against each other and then the top 4 out of those 8 sides make it to semi-finals.