BoyBrumby
Englishman
What I find reeeeally annoying is that we (as in England) get the blame for the Taffy twit.
He's right up/down there with the worst in any sports tho, no doubt.
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Best and worst cricket journalists
- Thread starter pasag
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He's right up/down there with the worst in any sports tho, no doubt.
Chubb
International Regular
I absolutely agree with that.
Haigh is brilliant, Roebuck has serious issues. That ridiculous accent he puts on is just a symptom of a whole raft of underlying problems in his psyche.
The thing that most annoys me about Roebuck is his total double standard towards fans of England and Australia. It's not okay to sing God Save the Queen (though like Roebuck I do refer to her as "Mrs Windsor") but it's fine to sing "Advance Australia Fair". It's okay to hurl abuse at the English if you are Australian, it is not okay for Englishmen to have a go at Australians. He never said a word about the Aussie who threw a coke can at Simon Jones and shouted "weak Pommie bastard!" at him when he was being stretchered off with his career in ruins in 2003, but English fans "greeted the fall of Australian wickets with a hysteria bordering on hatred" at the Oval in 2005.
Then there are the constant references to "the closure of the mines" and "the rejection of stoicism in public schools" as the reasons for England's supposed sporting decline... not all English sportsmen worked in a colliery or went to public school before 1980- that argument is madness.
I do agree with him on some issues, however; like him I admire Southern African and particularly Zimbabwean attitudes to sport and think coaching isn't tough enough in England. But that is not the fault of society- that problem is structural.
armchairumpire
U19 Cricketer
Thanks Volty. Think I might let that one go through to the 'keeper. However, one fo the great mysteries of the 21st century is why Bracewell has such faith in H Marshall.
Agree re Bracewell. Maybe the control Fleming had on the team pre Bracewell was too much for one person to do. Maybe NZC didn't like him having that much power, expecially after the contracts dispute.
One more thing Volty, Astle - was he pushed (Boock's theory of relativity) or did he just wake up one morning and decide it was no fun anymore?
Fiery
Banned
Astle himself insisted to Murray Deaker that he wasn't pushed at all. He has a book coming out soon co-written with Phil Gifford in which I'm sure he will explain his decision.
(Deaker and Gifford 2 aging but well-respected (by most) NZ sports-casters/journos)
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thierry henry
International Coach
Gifford and DEAKER (wtf) well respected 
oh, Fiery.....
oh, Fiery.....
Fiery
Banned
I said "by most" which is fair. Maybe not by you but you've already told us you don't respect any NZ journos so...zip itGifford and DEAKER (wtf) well respected
oh, Fiery.....
Smudge
Hall of Fame Member
armchair,
Astle has said this week that he still wants to play domestic cricket, although not for the rest of this season, so I genuinely think he had lost the will to play.
Here's a PDF of one of our back pages...
EDIT: Try this one
http://www.freefileupload.net/file.php?file=files/280207/1172703023/sewell.pdf
Astle has said this week that he still wants to play domestic cricket, although not for the rest of this season, so I genuinely think he had lost the will to play.
Here's a PDF of one of our back pages...
EDIT: Try this one
http://www.freefileupload.net/file.php?file=files/280207/1172703023/sewell.pdf
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BoyBrumby
Englishman
Was that deliberate? Cos when I clicked on it I was taken to a site promising me "a **** in London"....
vic_orthdox
Global Moderator
Not doing anything to change your reputation in these parts, Volty... 
Smudge
Hall of Fame Member
No, it wasn't deliberate.
Was that deliberate? Cos when I clicked on it I was taken to a site promising me "a **** in London"....
Not sure what happened there.. will try another file uploading site.
Smudge
Hall of Fame Member
armchairumpire
U19 Cricketer
Volty, Astle's timing in the middle of the series and only shortly before the WC side was announced was not good. I like Boock's explanation better - far more sensational, and sells a few more newspapers. I also happen to agree with it.
I was having a look at the position description for the job of CEO of New Zealand Cricket. The organisation chart made interesting reading. I didn't know that Stephen Boock was on the NZC Board. Pipeline to brother Richard?
vic_orthdox
Global Moderator
If anything the timing says it was less likely he was being pushed, being so close to the WC.
armchairumpire
U19 Cricketer
I think he could see the writing on the wall. In fact when he fell on his sward and Vincent came into the team things started looking up for the BC's.
Blaze
Banned
lol, Gifford
Smudge
Hall of Fame Member
I can't respect Gifford. His pro-Cantab columns are sycophantic at best and downright embarrassing at worst - particularly when you take into account he was the author of Loosehead Len, who was as one-eyed towards Auckland as you could get in the mid-to-late 1980s. Only recently has he managed to come up with some more thought-provoking columns and still mainly in regards to rugby. I have no interest in his thoughts on cricket
armchairumpire
U19 Cricketer
Sorry Volty, still can't read the back page. Who do you write for?
Fiery
Banned
Don't worry BoyBrumby, he shocked a few people at first but now everyone just see's him as comic relief...oh, and most people over here are aware that he's Welsh and not English now. He's just bitter about the failings of his once-proud rugby nation and needs an outlet to vent his frustration
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Smudge
Hall of Fame Member
When you click on that link I've provided, you need to scroll down the page and click on Download Now..
I write for a small provincial paper in NZ.
My favourites
From Australia : Gideon Haigh ; Phil Wilkins , Mike Coward & Ray Robinson (late)
From India : Rahul Bhat ; Ravi Shastri;
England : Peter Roebuck; Simon Wilde ; Chris martin-Jenkins;Eric Swanton;Mihir Bose;Richard Streeton;Patrick Murphy
From Windies : Tony Cozier
From Nz : Late RT Brittenden
worst - plenty of newspaper journalists who can't make the diff between a cricket Bat and a hockey stick and yet pontificate on the game
From Australia : Gideon Haigh ; Phil Wilkins , Mike Coward & Ray Robinson (late)
From India : Rahul Bhat ; Ravi Shastri;
England : Peter Roebuck; Simon Wilde ; Chris martin-Jenkins;Eric Swanton;Mihir Bose;Richard Streeton;Patrick Murphy
From Windies : Tony Cozier
From Nz : Late RT Brittenden
worst - plenty of newspaper journalists
who can't make the diff between a cricket Bat and a hockey stick and yet pontificate on the game