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***Official*** Commonwealth Bank Tri-Series

Jono

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Prince EWS said:
Yeah because that says so much about his cricketing abilities.

I'm so sick of hearing about that - sure it was funny but it has complete jack to do with how good a cricketer he is.
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If he's afraid of an imaginary ghost, I can only imagine what he was thinking when he saw Nixon's face, who looks like death himself.

Fact is, a lot of people view Watson as a soft, whinging dickhead. That has nothing to do with his cricket ability, and unlike Fiery, some of (not many though tbf) these people still rate his cricketing abilities (like myself). That doesn't mean I won't have a grin from ear to ear when he screws up royally, like last night which was embarassing for cricket worldwide. Cricketers in Ireland and Scotland were shaking their head at that batting.

If Dravid can learn to hit at the end, so can Watson (that doesn't mean he should have to, but if he's put at 7, learn to do it).
 
howardj

howardj

International Coach
I think the bottom line with Watson is that, yes, he is a better top order player than he is a number seven. That's a no-brainer. However, in the end, if he's a quality player he should be able to adapt and do a perfectly reasonable job down the order, while more qualified and better bats like Ponting/Clarke/Huseey fill the number three and four positions.

Anyway, enough of that. I'm tipping Hogg to miss out tomorrow and Johnson to play.
 
FaaipDeOiad

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
Jono said:
If he's afraid of an imaginary ghost, I can only imagine what he was thinking when he saw Nixon's face, who looks like death himself.

Fact is, a lot of people view Watson as a soft, whinging dickhead. That has nothing to do with his cricket ability, and unlike Fiery, some of (not many though tbf) these people still rate his cricketing abilities (like myself). That doesn't mean I won't have a grin from ear to ear when he screws up royally, like last night which was embarassing for cricket worldwide. Cricketers in Ireland and Scotland were shaking their head at that batting.

If Dravid can learn to hit at the end, so can Watson (that doesn't mean he should have to, but if he's put at 7, learn to do it).
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I think he's an absolute wanker, but that doesn't really effect how much I like watching him play. Plus Watson is sort of funny just because he projects his emotions so much on the field. The only member of the current Australian team who is particularly interesting or charismatic is Gilchrist IMO, and perhaps Hussey and Clark. The rest of them vary between boring, downright embarassing (Hodge), or just a bit lame in an amusing sort of way like Ponting, Warne and Lee.

However, the fact that Watson is a bit of a whinger has no bearing at all on how good he is at playing cricket, and it really bugs me when people like Stackpole and Chappell (or, indeed, Fiery and others on here) complain about him being in the team even when he's playing well because they don't like him as an individual. It's the same thing Bevan and MacGill have gone through over the years because they are "different" personalities. When his mental issues interfere with his performance, that's a different matter, but who gives a rats if he's afraid of ghosts ffs?
 
A

AussieDominance

Banned
Just had a look at who has been watching the series very closely then I noticed this.

Fiery 753
FaaipDeOiad 309
pup11 308
Prince EWS 302

Fiery you need sleeping tablets! New Mitchell if you posted in other parts of CW!
 
howardj

howardj

International Coach
FaaipDeOiad said:
but who gives a rats if he's afraid of ghosts ffs?
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In isolation, nobody. I think there's a few other things, along with that, that people have commented on to make the perfectly legitimate point that perhaps he's a bit of softy and that this is going to hold him back in the pressure cooker of International cricket. If you look at the guys who dominate or even just do well at International cricket, they all have a hard edge to their personality - they are forceful people, who have a presence. With Watson, I think people are coming at it (I know I am) from that angle. Obviously, with him being young there is a long way to go. But, it's just inarguable that you do need a certain type of make-up to excel in International cricket. As is often said, at that level, much of the game is mental.
 
FaaipDeOiad

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
Yeah, I agree with that, but a player can be soft or a whinger and still have the "right stuff" mentally. Cricket isn't about being hard, it's about making runs and taking wickets, and for every Border, Miandad or Ian Chappell there are other, less tough characters that have had success at international level. I hardly think Murali and Tendulkar are the toughest characters around, but they've both done very well.

Watson's obviously a huge confidence player and can go to pieces a bit at times and plays much better when things are going his way, but when he is playing well I hardly see what off-field issues like the ones people mention all the time have to do with anything, and his record speaks for itself - he plays well most of the time. Just look at the sort of stuff his critics come up with when he is playing well, about how he celebrates a wicket or how people are always patting him on the back or whatever. It's just vindictive, and it's irrelevant to how he performs.
 
FaaipDeOiad

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
biased indian said:
when was the last time australia lost 3 consicutive matches to a team ......:unsure:

in a non dead rubber one aganist WI i remember
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Australia have only lost two matches, and one of them was a dead rubber this time too. The last time Australia lost two in a row to a single team was in South Africa last year, and the last time they lost three was those WI games in 2003, when they went up 4-0 and the series finished 4-3.

The last time Australia lost three consecutive matches to a single side when they hadn't already won the series was in 1996 against South Africa in the Titan Cup. Australia played six games in that tournament and had one no result and five losses, and lost all three against SA. The other three games were against India.

edit: Sorry, that's wrong. New Zealand in the 01/02 VB Series beat Australia three times in a row, and it also happened in 1997 against England, 3-0 series loss. So NZ five years ago would be the last time.
 
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Fiery

Fiery

Banned
Voltman said:
"It's a freeee riiiiiiiiiide, when you've already paid..."

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Your sense of humour usually appeals to be Voltman but not sure how to interpret this one. Am I missing something or is it as simple as this: You think it's ironic because you think I'm a know-all little ponce? Please explain before I develop a complex
 
Fiery

Fiery

Banned
Just back from cricket. I holed out to long off on 49. Damn...but we won so I'm pretty happy with that. Anyone else play today? Would like to hear match summaries from others.
 
biased indian

biased indian

International Coach
i know they have lost 2 in a row........but wanted to see the historical chances of england doing it.............hope they do it
 
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