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sportychic33

State 12th Man
Why do you guys always have to compare players (Oram v Watson debate)?
Batting wise:

Watson unlike Oram has opened the batting for his country, therefore getting opportunity to dictate scoring as he pleases. When Watson bats down the order he has a decent foundation to bat from and can feel free to play his shots. Whereas Oram has not opened the batting, has had a career dogged by injury, often comes in and has to push the run rate to get New Zealand to anywhere near a decent score and often fails. He has limited opportunity but if he came in further up the order when there is less pressure and he can dictate the scoring and get his eye in his average would likely be higher than the current 19.4 ish.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Why do you guys always have to compare players (Oram v Watson debate)?
Batting wise:

Watson unlike Oram has opened the batting for his country, therefore getting opportunity to dictate scoring as he pleases. When Watson bats down the order he has a decent foundation to bat from and can feel free to play his shots. Whereas Oram has not opened the batting, has had a career dogged by injury, often comes in and has to push the run rate to get New Zealand to anywhere near a decent score and often fails. He has limited opportunity but if he came in further up the order when there is less pressure and he can dictate the scoring and get his eye in his average would likely be higher than the current 19.4 ish.
Yeah, he'd average 20.1 - which is what he averages when he comes in with 20+ overs to go in the innings.

Watson has only opened on a handful of occassions and he has done well - most of his career has been spent in situations similar to what Oram has faced.
 

Fiery

Banned
Why do you guys always have to compare players (Oram v Watson debate)?
Batting wise:

Watson unlike Oram has opened the batting for his country, therefore getting opportunity to dictate scoring as he pleases. When Watson bats down the order he has a decent foundation to bat from and can feel free to play his shots. Whereas Oram has not opened the batting, has had a career dogged by injury, often comes in and has to push the run rate to get New Zealand to anywhere near a decent score and often fails. He has limited opportunity but if he came in further up the order when there is less pressure and he can dictate the scoring and get his eye in his average would likely be higher than the current 19.4 ish.
I dunno mate. That's a very good question. It's ridiculous to compare the two...because Oram's a far better cricketer.......( bracing myself for oncoming onslaught from the fresh Prince)
 
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sportychic33

State 12th Man
I dunno mate. That's a very good question. It's ridiculous to compare the two...because Oram's a far better cricketer.......( bracing myself for oncoming onslaught from the fresh Prince)

Yep totally agree, Oram is a far better cricketer. Transformed himself from a top order bat into an allrounder, and been through more injury challenges than Watson.
 

Fiery

Banned
Lone and losing, it seems. Pity I agree with very few of your points. :p
Voltman... I stick up for my fellow countrymen even if it's blatantly obvious that they're ****e. I'll continue to do it till the day I die. I even went into bat for Carl Bulfin, Richard de Groen, Petrie, Heath Davis, Matthew Bell and Michael Papps when foreigners were giving them heaps. It's part of my make-up as a Black Cap supporter and I'm too old to change.
 

Craig

World Traveller
Why doesn't Vincent bat like this more often? This is style, not going out there and trying and bat like Dhoni.

Very good puller of the ball.
 

Smudge

Hall of Fame Member
Voltman... I stick up for my fellow countrymen even if it's blatantly obvious that they're ****e. I'll continue to do it till the day I die. I even went into bat for Carl Bulfin, Richard de Groen, Petrie, Heath Davis, Matthew Bell and Michael Papps when foreigners were giving them heaps. It's part of my make-up as a Black Cap supporter and I'm too old to change.
Well, yes, but it's your stance on Hayden that I take real issue with. :p

Personally, I wouldn't get into anything involving Heath Davis, if the rumours I've heard (which are not able to be repeated on here) are true... :ph34r:
 

MoxPearl

State Vice-Captain
that was awesome

vincent called him a wanker
vincent did the lil "hand **** sign"
then symonds went a bit agro

nice 2 see some agro in the field :D
 

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