What is so wrong with the West Indies?

[Craig]

I have to ask, what the hell is going wrong with them? Is it attitude, lack of professionalism, or just simply no disipline what so ever in their camp (excuse the pun).

At that rate things are going, Gus Logie might be advised to update his resume and there will be a press release from the WICB announcing that Ramnaresh Sarwan is the new captain of the West Indies, and Sarwan saying to the press how 'it is been his lifelong dream of captaining the West Indies' etc.

If that is too happen it obviously won't happen once the ICC CT is completed.

Maybe the WICB should follow Ian Botham's suggestion and appoint a foregin coach that has no ties what so ever in the Caribbean?

Either way IMO heads will probably have to roll to get some progress.

 

[Tim]

I don't see any domestic cricket from the West Indies so really im just commenting as an outsider. I feel there is alot of raw talent coming through but perhaps the grass-roots coaching in the West Indies is not really good enough to fine-tune that talent?
Im sure Liam & others will have their reasons.

 

[Craig]

The talent is there, there is no doubting it, the likes of Devon Smith, Ramnaresh Sarwan, Dwayne Bravo, Fidel Edwards, Jerome Taylor, Omari Banks, Jermain Lawson, Ravi Rampaul, Carlton Baugh, Dwayne Smith etc. are proof of that.

I don't know the lack of money could be the hindrence in all forward planning. But I think it would be good idea making their domestic competition home and away.

 

[lord_of_darkness]

no discipline and lack of proffesionalism probably.. they lack a serious decent spinner.. maybe i should consider going to west indies after my studies live for 4 years and hope for the best?

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

no discipline and lack of proffesionalism probably.. they lack a serious decent spinner.. maybe i should consider going to west indies after my studies live for 4 years and hope for the best?

Dave Mohammed is untried and Omari Banks has great potential.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Maybe the WICB should follow Ian Botham's suggestion and appoint a foregin coach that has no ties what so ever in the Caribbean?

We tried that but it didn't come through, so we fell back on Logie as sort of a backup plan.

 

[Swervy]

there have been some plus points for WI:

Bravo
Banks (he will get a lot better)
Gayle
Chaderpaul

for me the bowling has just lacked consistancy, and then England get a massive score, then its pressure all the way for the WI batting, who are young and so crack

 

[Revelation]

i think that it has a lot less to do with the players and a lot more to do with the administrators.

 

[steds]

How come all of the bowlers are so young and inexperienced. You need
a balance in your team and the West Indian attack isn't balanced. Where are Mervyn Dillon and Vasbert Drakes? As things are Tino Best, Fidel Edwards, jermaine Lawson and Omari Banks are learning their cricket the hard way - by getting tonked all over the place.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

there have been some plus points for WI:

Bravo
Banks (he will get a lot better)
Gayle
Chaderpaul

for me the bowling has just lacked consistancy, and then England get a massive score, then its pressure all the way for the WI batting, who are young and so crack

Also I think Best was very impressive in the Natwest series. Chanderpaul isn't really a positive per se as he has been reliable for the West Indies for years now. Gayle has been a real surprise. No one (including me) gave him a prayer on English pitches.

Bravo and Banks are two for the future for sure. Consider how young they both still are. For that reason I think some people have too high expectations for them.

 

[Swervy]

How come all of the bowlers are so young and inexperienced. You need
a balance in your team and the West Indian attack isn't balanced. Where are Mervyn Dillon and Vasbert Drakes? As things are Tino Best, Fidel Edwards, jermaine Lawson and Omari Banks are learning their cricket the hard way - by getting tonked all over the place.

its how harmison learned

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

How come all of the bowlers are so young and inexperienced. You need
a balance in your team and the West Indian attack isn't balanced. Where are Mervyn Dillon and Vasbert Drakes? As things are Tino Best, Fidel Edwards, jermaine Lawson and Omari Banks are learning their cricket the hard way - by getting tonked all over the place.

Vasbert Drakes is not a Test quality bowler IMO. He bowled well against Australia, but was horribly disappointing against South Africa. He's a good bowler, but past his best.

Dillon would be useful in this attack, but I fear he's was out of the selectors' thoughts. That said, another bowling injury and he'd be the next man to be called up.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

its how harmison learned

But Harmison had Caddick there.

 

[steds]

its how harmison learned

true

 

[steds]

But Harmison had Caddick there.

and Gough

 

[Craig]

We tried that but it didn't come through, so we fell back on Logie as sort of a backup plan.

But how many times have the WICB tried though? Once?

 

[Langeveldt]

1/ Lack of professionalism, poor atitude
2/ I don't rate Lara at all as a captain. I don't think he is especially good tactically, and he is not a good leader of men, although he does set the example..
3/ Lack of patience in the test matches. Cameos instead of grit might look good, but they don't usually win you tough matches *cough, Chris Gayle*

 

[Revelation]

Langevelt, it's not a matter of Lara's a bad captain so we'll just put someone else. The problem is: We don't have a captain to fall back on. That's why Lara was reappointed in the first place. Sarwan has not shown competency as captain. He has barely captained Guyana.

 

[Craig]

Langevelt, it's not a matter of Lara's a bad captain so we'll just put someone else. The problem is: We don't have a captain to fall back on. That's why Lara was reappointed in the first place. Sarwan has not shown competency as captain. He has barely captained Guyana.

So then why is the captain in waiting then? And apparently in the few ODIs he has captained the West Indies he had the West Indies playing as a team on what they currently are.

Either way I don't think it will be long before he has full reigns on the team either if Lara is sacked as captain or he (Lara) resigns as captain.

 

[Craig]

3/ Lack of patience in the test matches. Cameos instead of grit might look good, but they don't usually win you tough matches *cough, Chris Gayle*

I agree.

I would rather see an 'ugly' hundred from Gayle when he has to bat all day for it, then score it off 84 balls.