The ATG World XI's game

[Jarquis]

Hassett
Flintoff

 

[weldone]

Tony Greig's batting is being seriously overrated here.

We need a very good batsman @ no. 6

 

[watson]

Tony Greig's batting is being seriously overrated here.

We need a very good batsman @ no. 6

Overall batting ave of 40.43 is not that bad. Nor is 36.1 when playing against both Australia and the West Indies during the 1970s because he was facing Lillee, Thomo, Holding and Roberts in their prime.

Throw in a bowling strike-rate of 69.5 (Underwood's SR was 73.6 and Mike Hendrick's SR was 71.3 for example) and you have an excellent No.6. Especially if you also utilise his excellent captaincy and slip-fielding skills.

I think that Greig is one of the most underated cricketers of the 70's.

 

[Jacknife]

Laxmann

Flintoff

 

[Eds]

My reasoning behind that quote was that Statham has no test half-centuries, nor does Turner or Gibbs. Turner and Statham both averaged 11, whereas Gibbs averages just under 7. In most of the other ATG teams we've picked, there have been some handy bats at 9 and sometimes 10, e.g Hadlee, Marshall, Warne, Kumble, Holding and so on- people who can stick around if needed and contribute a vital 20 or 30, occasionally going a little further than that. I was just commenting on the relative weakness of this team's tail.

But Turner obviously played in an era where averaging 11 was more than solid for a number 9. He's better, batting-wise, than a number of #9s we've selected thus far, IMO.

 

[marc71178]

Out of interest, how will votes be counted when someone is voted for in 2 positions (ie someone votes him as 6 as the other as 7/8?)

 

[G.I.Joe]

Laxman
Rhodes

 

[Jager]

Out of interest, how will votes be counted when someone is voted for in 2 positions (ie someone votes him as 6 as the other as 7/8?)

Well so far, we haven't encountered that, but I am not sure what we'd do in the situation of someone getting a high proportion of votes in two categories yet not winning either- what do you think we should do if it happens?

 

[marc71178]

Include him and the winner of the vote he got fewer votes in.

 

[Michaelf7777777]

Chris Cairns

Wilfred Rhodes

 

[Jager]

Greig with a narrow win over Laxman for the number 6 slot and Pollock will strengthen the team overall a lot. Our bowling looks quite strong here now we have a genuinely good fifth option.

Votes

Ryder: 1
Yousuf: 1
Greig: 6
Woolley: 1
Flintoff: 1
Laxman: 5
De Silva: 1
Jayawardene: 1
Hassett: 1
Cairns: 1

Pollock: 6
Mahmood: 1
Cairns: 3
Rhodes: 4
Flintoff: 4
Spofforth: 1

 

[Jager]

Teams compiled so far

World XI (1)
1. J Hobbs 2. L Hutton 3. D Bradman 4. V Richards 5. S Tendulkar 6. G Sobers 7. A Gilchrist+ 8. I Khan 9 S. Warne 10. M Marshall 11. G McGrath

World A XI (2)
1. S Gavaskar 2. H Sutcliffe 3. G Headley 4. B Lara 5. W Hammond 6. J Kallis 7. A Knott+ 8. R Hadlee 9. W Akram 10. C Ambrose 11. M Muralitharan

World B XI (3)
1. B Richards 2. V Trumper 3. G Chappell 4. G Pollock 5. A Border 6. K Miller 7. L Ames+ 8. D Lillee 9. F Trueman 10. B O'Reilly 11. S Barnes

World C XI (4)
1. G Boycott 2. W.G Grace 3. R Ponting 4. K Barrington 5. S Waugh 6. C Walcott+ 7. I Botham 8. A Davidson 9. M Holding 10. J Laker 11. A Donald

World D XI (5)
1. G Greenidge 2. M Hayden 3. R Dravid 4. D Compton 5. E Weekes 6. F Worrell 7. D Lindsay+ 8. S Pollock 9. R Lindwall 10. J Garner 11. C Grimmett

World E XI (6)
1. G Gooch 2. A Morris 3. N Harvey 4. J Miandad 5. D Nourse 6. A Flower+ 7. M Procter 8. R Benaud 9. D Steyn 10. A Roberts 11. W Younis

World F XI (7)
1. B Mitchell 2. B Simpson 3. K Sangakkara 4. K Ranjitsinhji 5. C Macartney 6. C Lloyd 7. K Dev 8. D Tallon+ 9. H Verity 10. H Larwood 11. C Walsh

World G XI (8)
1. V Merchant 2. H Mohammad 3. S McCabe 4. K Pietersen 5. S Chanderpaul 6. A Faulkner 7. F Engineer+ 8. H Tayfield 9. A Bedser 10. I Bishop 11. C Croft

World H XI (9)
1. G Smith 2. V Sehwag 3. R Kanhai 4. M Crowe 5. Inzamam ul-Haq 6. D Walters 7. I Healy+ 8. M Tate 9. A Kumble 10. W Hall 11. J Snow

World I XI (10)
1. W Ponsford 2. W Lawry 3. T Dexter 4. P May 5. D Gower 6. A Greig 7. J Dujon+ 8. P Pollock 9. C Turner 10. B Statham 11. L Gibbs

Over to NUFAN for the next few rounds. How would you all rank the teams in order of strength?

 

[NasserFan207]

Got to say, E is my favourite side there. What an awesome attack. Big Gooch fan too

 

[Jager]

Got to say, E is my favourite side there. What an awesome attack. Big Gooch fan too

Agreed, and the batting lineup looks fantastic too. D is my second favourite, the only aspect I don't like is Hayden for me.

 

[kyear2]

Agree with that, Morris over Hayden and possibly Harvey before Compton. But D is a very good team.

Also for me C would be much stronger with Weekes over Barrington. Don't need Waugh and Barrington in the same team and Steve would get the first nood.

 

[kingkallis]

Holding & Donald in one team - 2 bowlers with most awesome action ever!

 

[Jager]

Holding & Donald in one team - 2 bowlers with most awesome action ever!

Larwood, Tyson and Trueman would be my favourite actions, glorious if you ask me. Also, how in the blazes did W.G Grace rank above someone like Ponsford? I think it was Grace's persona that made him so famous, not so much his skill. Compared to a batsman such as Ponsford, I think he'd be child's play.

 

[kingkallis]

Trueman chucked

 

[NUFAN]

World J XI time.

1) Select 3 pace bowlers
2) Select 2 opening bats.

Suggested pace bowlers
Neil Adcock, Shoaib Akhtar, Terry Alderman, James Anderson, Shane Bond, Stuart Broad, Chris Cairns, Jack Cowie, Fanie de Villiers, Andrew Flintoff, Jason Gillespie, Darren Gough, Charlie Griffith, Ken Higgs, Merv Hughes, Bill Johnston, Zaheer Khan, George Lohmann, Fazal Mahmood, Craig McDermott, Garth McKenzie, Sarfraz Nawaz, Makhaya Ntini, Bruce Reid, Tom Richardson, Fred Spofforth, Javagal Srinath, Heath Streak, Jeff Thomson, Ernie Toshack, Frank Tyson, Chaminda Vaas, Bob Willis

Suggested opening bats
Dennis Amiss, Saeed Anwar, Eddie Barlow, Bill Brown, Alastair Cook, Stewie Dempster, John Edrich, Roy Fredericks, Herschelle Gibbs, Trevor Goddard, Desmond Haynes, Conrad Hunte, Sanath Jayasuriya, Justin Langer, Archie McLaren, Mark Richardson, Michael Slater, Navjot Sidhu, Michael Slater, Alec Stewart, Andrew Strauss, Mark Taylor, Marcus Trescothick, Glenn Turner, Michael Vaughan, Cyril Washbrook, Bill Woodfull

 

[marc71178]

Flintoff
Adcock
Thomson

Goddard
McLaren