Daemon
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I think RH was posting a 2nd XI, Gilchrist is already in the 1st
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Gilchrist v Dhoni
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TheJediBrah
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my poor comprehension skills
Daemon
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Still better than Mathews
Migara
International Coach
Warne is a weird bowling option when you have better alternatives like Garner or Pollock. (I'd have Garner for Warne, and Pollock for Wasim). If having a second spinner is extremely important (other than on a spinning paradise, then Saqlain would be the automatic 2nd choice spinner), Shakib is the best choice, if you want to keep Gilly in the side.
My first XI would be
Jayasuriya / Watson
Tendulkar
Richards*
Kohli
ABdV
Dhoni+
Klusener
Pollock
Murali
Garner
McGrath
The Second XI
Gilly+
Anwar
Sharma
Lara
Abbas
Bevan
Kapil*
Wasim
Saqlain
Ambrose
Donald
srbhkshk
International Captain
Well maybe if we are nit-picking about stats then yeah, but no team in History is ever actually gonna play Warne and think "oh gosh, that makes our bowling weak".
cricketsavant
U19 12th Man
Reading the opening few pages of this thread I am surprised by how cricketing the discussion was rather than the partisan nonsense in 2020.
Anyway, I think some who have read my thoughts will know why I think Gilly > Dhoni and it may surprise you that I think Dhoni is probably second best as keeper/bat in ODIs and would walk into an Indian all time XI, an Asian one and a second ATG XI.
In tests I think it is Gilly by some distance, not necessarily the batting but the combination of being a very decent bat and one of the absolute best test keepers. I think Gilly's competition comes from the likes of Boucher and Healy in terms of test cricket.
Anyway, I think some who have read my thoughts will know why I think Gilly > Dhoni and it may surprise you that I think Dhoni is probably second best as keeper/bat in ODIs and would walk into an Indian all time XI, an Asian one and a second ATG XI.
In tests I think it is Gilly by some distance, not necessarily the batting but the combination of being a very decent bat and one of the absolute best test keepers. I think Gilly's competition comes from the likes of Boucher and Healy in terms of test cricket.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Plus Warney can bat, which can be a big consideration and depending on the make up of the rest of your attack, could well be the deciding factor. Saqlain can bat too but he was not much of a hitter, which is what you want from your #8 in LO games.
cricketsavant
U19 12th Man
You sure Dhoni shouldn't ball too? He is the greatest after all
Migara
International Coach
Sri lanka and Pakistan definitely. Murali and Saqlain were superior. Qadir, just about equal.
Migara
International Coach
Warney's replacement Pollock can do it umpteen times better.
srbhkshk
International Captain
For what it's worth he actually is a lot better bowler than Gilly.You sure Dhoni shouldn't ball too? He is the greatest after all
srbhkshk
International Captain
Qadir wasn't even close to Warne, don't be ridiculous.
stephen
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1999 and 2007 would beg to differ. Both had their chances to win the world cup for their side and neither did.
To be honest though, if a side had all three available they'd probably play all 3, or at least two at a time. You don't hold talent like that back behind a mediocre pace bowler.
Migara
International Coach
stephen
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All that shows is that Warne was better and for twice as long as Qadir
Migara
International Coach
Looking forwards for the comments of Murali vs Warne graph.
stephen
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I don't exactly base my ratings of players on charts. I base it on their performances particularly in world cups for ODIs.
I consider Murali's performance in the 2007 WC final to be a big black mark against him. In a final, on the same pitch where Clarke and Hogg took key wickets, where he could have set up the match for his side he took 0/44 (7). The funniest thing about this was that Sri Lanka rested Murali for their earlier match against Australia so they wouldn't get a look at him before the final.
I also hold Warne's 0/58 (10) in the 96 final against him, but his performance in 1999 redeemed him. Murali never took a match winning haul in a world cup final (the 1/31 (10) was as close as he got) and never really took a decent haul of wickets against Australia in a world cup march at all.
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honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
So you are not Indian and this obsessed with MSD? hmmmmmmmmmmmm..........You sure Dhoni shouldn't ball too? He is the greatest after all