Four Eras Test Draft Voting

[Line and Length]

The 16 teams have been divided into 4 groups of 4 as per indicated in the main thread.

Please nominate your choice of two in order from each group. It's probably best for participants to abstain from voting in their group.

Group A
Patience & Accuracy	Pothas	Teuton	Bitmap
Gordon Greenidge	Stewie Dempster	Len Hutton c	Sid Barnes
Warren Bardsley	Jeffrey Stollmeyer	Herbie Taylor	Bill Brown
Ernest Tyldesley	Ken Barrington	Rohan Kanhai	Viv Richards
Steve Smith	Greg Chappell	Everton Weekes	Graeme Pollock
Joe Root	Ranjitsinhji	AB de Villiers	Frank Worrell
Patsy Hendren	Allan Steel	Shakib al Hasan	Stan McCabe
Alan Knott	Denis Lindsay	Jack Gregory	Ian Healy
Ray Lindwall	Learie Constantine	Mike Procter	Johnny Briggs
Bill O'Reilly	Shane Warne	Wasim Akram	Ian Bishop
Fred Spofforth	Courtney Walsh	Dick Lilley wk	Waqar Younis
Jasprit Bumrah	Glenn McGrath	Hedley Verity	Sydney Barnes
Group B
ataraxia	Silver Silva	Himannv	Cricket Bliss
Arthur Morris	Jack Hobbs	Bob Simpson	Cyril Washbrook
Eric Rowan	Bill Ponsford	Arthur Shrewsbury	Joe Darling
George Headley	Kumar Duleepsinhji	C.B. Fry	Brian Lara
Allan Border	Phil Mead	Virat Kholi	Jacques Kallis
Clem Hill	Joe Hardstaff jnr	Douglas Jardine	Neil Harvey
Warwick Armstrong	Tony Greig	Gary Sobers	Imran Khan
Billy Wade	Kumar Sangakarra	George Duckworth	Gubby Allen
Peter Pollock	Ravindra Jadeja	Pat Cummins	Ivan Barrow
Hugh Tayfield	Ryan Harris	Dennis Lillee	Jim Laker
Dale Steyn	Michael Holding	Arthur Mailey	Kagiso Rabada
James Anderson	Frank Tyson	Allan Donald	J.J. Ferris
Group C
Andrew B	Krypto	capt_Luffy	JOJOXI
Herbert Sutcliffe	Geoff Boycott	Graeme Smith	Herbie Collins
Barry Richards	Matthew Hayden	Wilfred Rhodes	Virender Sehwag
Eddie Paynter	Hashim Amla	Wally Hammond	Charles Macartney
Bill Edrich	Denis Compton	Peter May	Sachin Tendulkar
Andy Flower	Aubrey Faulkner	Javed Miandad	Dudley Nourse
Adam Gilchrist	Frank Woolley	Jack Ryder	Stanley Jackson
Richie Benaud	Jock Cameron	Les Ames	Keith Miller
Shaun Pollock	Kapil Dev	Ravichandran Ashwin	Bert Oldfield
Frank Foster	Maurice Tate	Alec Bedser	Anil Kumble
Derek Underwood	Jeff Thomson	Curtly Ambrose	John Snow
Charlie Turner	Bob Willis	Tom Richardson	Neil Adcock
Group D
Fuller Pilch	trundler	Line & Length	Red
W.G. Grace	Sunil Gavaskar	Victor Trumper	Bill Woodfull
Archie MacLaren	Bruce Mitchell	Vijay Merchant	Bill Lawry
Kane Williamson	Rahul Dravid	Lindsay Hassett	Ricky Ponting
Younis Khan	Martin Crowe	Kevin Pietersen	Mike Hussey
Martin Donnelly	Steve Waugh	Maurice Leyland	Archie Jackson
Clyde Walcott	Monty Noble	Doug Walters	Clive Lloyd
Ian Botham	Billy Murdoch	M.S. Dhoni	Jack Blackham
Vernon Philander	Richard Hadlee	Fred Trueman	Hugh Trumble
Harold Larwood	Joel Garner	George Lohmann	Alan Davidson
Andy Roberts	Manny Martindale	Brian Statham	Malcolm Marshall
Clarrie Grimmett	Bert Ironmonger	Muttiah Muralitharan	Bill Bowes

 

[Line and Length]

My votes:

Group A: Very tough group. Any one could deserve to win through.
1. Bitmap 2. Pothas

Group B: The openers won my votes here in another tough call.
1. Silver Silva 2. Himannv

Group C: The batting line-ups are good so the bowling attacks took my votes.
1. Krypto 2. JOJOXI

Group D: I abstain

 

[Line and Length]

When going through my OP I had to edit teams due to typos. I even had Bitmap in two groups. Hopefully all is right now.

 

[Teuton]

(1st & 2nd)
B: ataraxia & Silver
C: Luffy & AndrewB
D: L&L & Fuller

 

[howitzer]

A:1.Bitmap 2.Patience...
B:1.ataraxia 2.Himannv
C:1.Luffy 2.AndrewB
D:1.L&L 2.trundler

Nice draft. Might join one at some point.

 

[Line and Length]

Nice draft. Might join one at some point.

You'd be more than welcome.

 

[Himannv]

A: Teuton and Bitmap
C: Luffy and AndrewB
D: FP and L&L

This is in order.

 

[Silver Silva]

A. 1.Teuton , 2.Bitmap
C. 1.Capt Luffy 2.Andrew B
D. 1.Trundler 2.L&L

 

[Krypto]

Group A Patience and pothas
Group D Trundler and Line
Edit, group B on first glance didn't have teams that spoke to what my personal preference is, what I call ballance. However after closer inspection I would like to vote for one team in that group Ataraxia. Also I feel I'm in the group of death... Imo all 4 really good teams. Not to bothered about voting or popularity though.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Group A: Teuton & Bitmap (it's the deadliest group, by far)
Group B: Himannv & Ataraxia
Group D: Trundler & Line and Length

 

[Silver Silva]

Group A Patience and pothas
Group D Trundler and Line
Edit, group B on first glance didn't have teams that spoke to what my personal preference is, what I call ballance. However after closer inspection I would like to vote for one team in that group Ataraxia. Also I feel I'm in the group of death... Imo all 4 really good teams. Not to bothered about voting or popularity though.

I disagree i think my team is balanced, the only one out of place is Sangakkara whom ive included at No.7 as a luxury as everyone else above him are accomplished bats be it in FC or Test cricket ..
Everyone in the team has a Test 50 and i have 5 bowling options


Two fine openers , Jack Hobbs the most prolific FC batsman of all time ..
Bill Ponsford has a Test avg of 48 and a FC avg of 64 ..Duleepsinji batted 8 times at no.3 in his test career cut short by the war and averaged 88 , overall average 58 in 19 Tests , FC record 15K runs @ 49 ..Phil Mead 4th highest FC runscorer of all time, Test average of 49 , Hardstaff averaged 46 in test cricket as a middle order bat, Tony Greig batted the most at no.6 and is a good all rounder , Jadeja at No.8 is a great luxury to have ..Harris , Holding and Tyson all sub 25 bowlers and can bowl 90mph + .

 

[capt_Luffy]

I disagree i think my team is balanced, the only one out of place is Sangakkara whom ive included at No.7 as a luxury as everyone else above him are accomplished bats be it in FC or Test cricket ..
Everyone in the team has a Test 50 and i have 5 bowling options


Two fine openers , Jack Hobbs the most prolific FC batsman of all time ..
Bill Ponsford has a Test avg of 48 and a FC avg of 64 ..Duleepsinji batted 8 times at no.3 in his test career cut short by the war and averaged 88 , overall average 58 in 19 Tests , FC record 15K runs @ 49 ..Phil Mead 4th highest FC runscorer of all time, Test average of 49 , Hardstaff averaged 46 in test cricket as a middle order bat, Tony Greig batted the most at no.6 and is a good all rounder , Jadeja at No.8 is a great luxury to have ..Harris , Holding and Tyson all sub 25 bowlers and can bowl 90mph + .

I personally didn't liked three things about your team:

1. The batting position of Kumar Sangakkara. He's the second best batsman in your team, a certified no. 3; and you're sending him to bat at 7 after Tony Greig.
2. Ryan Harris. He was world class for a very little period and outside of it he was not even always 1st Class level. I can't really rate him particularly high.
3. Duleepsinhji, Phil Mead, Joe Hardstaff Jr and Frank Tyson. Not saying they're bad players, just that they have a really small sample size. 1 or 2 such players aren't a big deal, but you have 5 in your team.
Overall, I don't think a team with Hobbs and Ponsford in the opening and Holding leading the attack is a bad team; I just feel some others are better.

 

[Silver Silva]

I personally didn't liked three things about your team:

1. The batting position of Kumar Sangakkara. He's the second best batsman in your team, a certified no. 3; and you're sending him to bat at 7 after Tony Greig.
2. Ryan Harris. He was world class for a very little period and outside of it he was not even always 1st Class level. I can't really rate him particularly high.
3. Duleepsinhji, Phil Mead, Jack Ryder and Frank Tyson. Not saying they're bad players, just that they have a really small sample size. 1 or 2 such players aren't a big deal, but you have 5 in your team.
Overall, I don't think a team with Hobbs and Ponsford in the opening and Holding leading the attack is a bad team; I just feel some others are better.

I dont have Jack Ryder in my team, and this is not a post to bash other teams i was just responding cause this guy said only one team from group B was balanced which is **** , i can only speak for myself but saying there is only team in group B that is balanced is wrong.

 

[capt_Luffy]

I dont have Jack Ryder in my team, and this is not a post to bash other teams i was just responding cause this guy said only one team from group B was balanced which is **** , i can only speak for myself but saying there is only team in group B that is balanced is wrong.

Krypto said only one team in that group stood out to him, not that others are unbalanced. Jack Ryder was a miscomment, I am sorry I meant to say Joe Hardstaff Jr. I personally feel all the teams in pretty much every group is pretty much close; and I just commented somethings I felt your otherwise really solid team lacked. If it came out as mean, I am really sorry.

 

[Kenneth Viljoen]

A - Pothas, Patience

B - CricketBliss , Ataraxia

C - Andrew B , JOJOXI

D - Fuller Pilch, Red

 

[Krypto]

I disagree i think my team is balanced, the only one out of place is Sangakkara whom ive included at No.7 as a luxury as everyone else above him are accomplished bats be it in FC or Test cricket ..
Everyone in the team has a Test 50 and i have 5 bowling options


Two fine openers , Jack Hobbs the most prolific FC batsman of all time ..
Bill Ponsford has a Test avg of 48 and a FC avg of 64 ..Duleepsinji batted 8 times at no.3 in his test career cut short by the war and averaged 88 , overall average 58 in 19 Tests , FC record 15K runs @ 49 ..Phil Mead 4th highest FC runscorer of all time, Test average of 49 , Hardstaff averaged 46 in test cricket as a middle order bat, Tony Greig batted the most at no.6 and is a good all rounder , Jadeja at No.8 is a great luxury to have ..Harris , Holding and Tyson all sub 25 bowlers and can bowl 90mph + .

You really want me to do this?, also a main reason i don't like voting as its personal opinion . If i need to explain in detail i need to explain the balance i refer too . That is based on all of the all time great test sides right from the West Indies side of the 60s till the Indian side of current.

You make it sound that Sangakarra who is a batsman keeper batting at 7 isnt a big deal however for me its a deal breaker major ballance points is batting at 7 , 8 and in some cases 9 . Ability to be aggressive when needed and bat with the tail and many other things above that , also Sangakarra isn't what ill classify as a specialist Keeper and you can get away with this if he bats higher and then have a specialist batsman that can finish of an innings .

So just on point 1 i cannot like it and is a recipe for disaster in my opinion . On top of that the bowling line-up is one dimensional and this also creates a big mis match with your batting lineup . As batting is geared to tougher batting conditions and your bowling will benefit from fast hard green surfaces .

And that's just the surface .

 

[Silver Silva]

You really want me to do this?, also a main reason i don't like voting as its personal opinion . If i need to explain in detail i need to explain the balance i refer too . That is based on all of the all time great test sides right from the West Indies side of the 60s till the Indian side of current.

You make it sound that Sangakarra who is a batsman keeper batting at 7 isnt a big deal however for me its a deal breaker major ballance points is batting at 7 , 8 and in some cases 9 . Ability to be aggressive when needed and bat with the tail and many other things above that , also Sangakarra isn't what ill classify as a specialist Keeper and you can get away with this if he bats higher and then have a specialist batsman that can finish of an innings .

So just on point 1 i cannot like it and is a recipe for disaster in my opinion . On top of that the bowling line-up is one dimensional and this also creates a big mis match with your batting lineup . As batting is geared to tougher batting conditions and your bowling will benefit from fast hard green surfaces .

And that's just the surface .

If you dont like my team vote for someone else in group B , why you got to be the only person who has a single vote for Group B ?

 

[Krypto]

If you dont like my team vote for someone else in group B , why you got to be the only person who has a single vote for Group B ?

On first glance none of them fit my criteria ,and this should be my prerogative ? What if i dont agree with any of them , its not the first time ive not voted for a group , in previous times i refused to vote after groups ... for the excact same reason .

I am able to break down my opinion on every single team if you'd like but that's not the point . Also no one should think like someone else or have the same opinions . Generally i am definitely in the minority on what I've seen so far .

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

A: Abstain

B:Cricket Bliss and Himnavv

C:JoJoXi and capt_Luffy

D:trundler and Red

 

[Fuller Pilch]

This is difficult. Lots of very good teams.

In order

A: Teuton & Bitmap
B: SS & Himannv
C: JOJO & Luffy


D: DeVillers and Dale (ABSteyn) - abstain
Sorry, the more I read it, the worse/cheesier it sounds